Root Cause Solutions For You

The Carnivore Diet: Transformative Health Journeys and Expert Insights

• Fabiola Reyes, BCHHP - Root Cause Expert, Cert. AK, CellCore & Nutrition Response Testing® and Quantum Nutrition Testing Practitioner • Season 2 • Episode 9

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Alia Wells faced lifelong challenges with unhealthy eating habits and weight issues, starting from her childhood in Chicago. Her journey through various diets, including keto, was marked by misinformation and inconsistent results, ultimately leading her to the carnivore diet. Alia's story is shared in this episode, offering a personal narrative of resilience and the power of understanding one's unique physiological needs. We dive deep into her experiences and the broader implications of dietary decisions on women's health, including potential genetic and autoimmune connections to painful menstrual cycles and the impact of ultra-processed foods.

Our discussion doesn't shy away from challenging common dietary myths and highlighting the essential role of amino acids and fatty acids. We explore the confusing landscape of dietary advice and stress the importance of sustainable, long-term changes over quick fixes. The conversation also examines how societal misconceptions about women's health and the over-reliance on medications can detract from understanding and addressing root causes. We emphasize the need to advocate for one's own health through dietary and lifestyle changes, such as adjusting carbohydrate intake and considering the elimination of certain foods.

Join us as we spotlight the inspiring transformations of individuals like Bill Knott from Alaska, who experienced significant weight loss and health improvements through the carnivore diet. The episode also touches on the importance of sustainable practices like regenerative farming in supporting both health and the environment. We encourage listeners to reflect on how dietary choices can lead to better health outcomes and express gratitude for the enlightening insights shared by our guest, Alia Wells.

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Speaker 1:

Hi everyone, welcome back for another episode of Root Cause Solutions for you. My name is Fabiola and I am your host, and today I am very happy to have with a very special guest, alia Wells, who is a carnivore expert. I found her through social media and I was very captivated by how she's implemented a carnivore lifestyle and the health transformation that she's had, doing that, when we give the body the things that the body really needs, how it just knows how to heal and repair, it has the tools to be able to do that. So I'm super happy to have her here to tell us a little bit about that. She's a mother of two, she's a health enthusiastic. She definitely is into alternative holistic health, so I could not think of a better guest to tell us about Carnivore than Alia. Alia, thank you so much for being here with us today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you so much for having me. I'm glad we could finally set this up and do this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, tell us a little bit about yourself and what got you into Carpnabor.

Speaker 2:

I was following various people for many years. Okay, let's back up. Since I was a kid I've had issues with my weight. I am from Chicago, I love hot dogs and french fries, I love pizza, I love Domino's Of course I should love other pizza if I'm from Chicago, but I was like a very chubby little kid.

Speaker 2:

But I say I was like fat and happy. And then I hit my teenage years and I was less happy, less fat, more in pain. Puberty hit and that was very rough for me and I don't know if other people have experienced that, like all the hormonal changes that happen, and I didn't really have anyone to talk to. So I just suffered for years, like in my mind and in my body. As the years progressed I wasn't so fat.

Speaker 2:

But let's go back when I was 10, I was 100 pounds. I was like four foot, nothing. I was so short, so you can imagine how big I was. But my dad tells me this story that when I was two I was 50 pounds. You can't really blame me for being a 50 pound two year old, but you can blame the people putting the food there for the two-year-old. But so my addiction to food started young, I would say, as a teenager, though I wasn't so overweight. I stretched out and, as the body is developing, maybe it was using the extra fat to develop the body right 20s, 30s I'm not so fat, even though I always thought I was. Does that make sense? Yep A hundred percent.

Speaker 2:

Suffering a lot from difficulties with my menstrual cycle like terrifyingly painful most of the time from my recollection and we can talk about that a little bit more later. But this is very I always bring that up because my first realization and doing carnivore directly relates to that. That was like the first I. I was like, oh my God, how is this possible?

Speaker 1:

So anyways.

Speaker 2:

I have two kids back to back. Basically After my first child, or well, in my first pregnancy, I gained 80 pounds. So I went from 150 ish, which I thought was bad. Does that make sense? I'm five three, I'm five, four, so it's it's okay. I think it's an okay weight for that height and body.

Speaker 2:

But I always I still always, by the way always obsessed with my weight, starting as a teenager, right around puberty. Never cared as a child, if that makes sense. So I've had an obsession with food and an obsession about my weight, if that makes any sense. I think a lot of women go through that. Yep, 80 pounds with Jacob. With Brianna I lost weight because I could hardly eat. They were back to back and then I slowly my heaviest after Jacob, which was about a year after he was born, I think. I always say this number and so I'm guessing it's true 225 pounds or 224 pounds Again, I'm 5'4". So I looked very big. Yep, and I ate totally unhealthy, false data. Like you're feeding for two, it's not true. You're not feeding a peanut. Like the like a little baby, like it's not two actual human beings, yet two normal size human beings, yeah. So with brian I could. I couldn't eat very well.

Speaker 2:

My, my second child like I said, I had those two babies back to back. I had two c-sections. Um, after jake was born, I found out that I have a thyroid condition. I think I possibly have Hashimoto's, I just don't remember. And I'm about to get all my blood work redone. I've done my blood work twice in the last year and a half but I didn't check that specifically. I get really fat. I'm dealing with a thyroid condition. Then Brianna's bored and I find out about Eric Berg, the chiropractor on YouTube, who's got 11 million subscribers, and I start following all of his advice. After she's born, I'm like I'm going to. I try to follow. Let's back up. I try to follow his advice.

Speaker 2:

So, I try to pretend like I'm doing, like a healthy, ketogenic diet. I'm eating like dry chicken breast, iceberg lettuce salad, and all of a sudden, since being in Colombia and I'm not going to blame Colombia, but since starting, maybe, the ketogenic way of eating, I started consuming more vegetables than I had in my entire life Huge salads. I would often fall off of this way of eating. I would gain more weight, I would lose some weight, I would gain more weight, and so this was going on for years. I would cry to my husband about how fat I was and how can I lose weight and what am I doing wrong, and I would do a candida cleanse or I would try something, mainly trying to go back to a ketogenic way of eating, even though I was doing it wrong.

Speaker 2:

After five years of this six years of this, no, five years of this I listened to an interview that Dr Berg does with a gentleman named Tristan Haggard. He lives in Ecuador. He's also a gringo, so that made me oh wow, a gringo right next door, and he explained that his back, random inflammation in his body, went away. He wasn't fat, though, but all of these things, like similar issues that I have just went away, started going away. So then I was like, oh, that's weird.

Speaker 2:

I will say that many years ago, maybe five years ago, I watched a Dr Berg video about the carnivore diet. It wasn't convincing. It was not that it was negative, but it wasn't like at the end of it you wouldn't want to do the carnivore diet if you didn't know enough about it. But that was my first exposure to it. Then I listened to this Tristan Haggard interview and then I just started doing a deep dive into all these YouTubers doing carnivore and a specific doctor named Ken Berry on YouTube and one of Ken Berry's videos. He talks about the keto diet, which is basically carnivore and keto with 10 grams of carbohydrates or less in your diet and that's what his wife, who's a nurse, follows that way of eating.

Speaker 2:

So first I was like, ok, I'm going to attempt to do that and I think I did that a little bit ish for a little while at the end of 2022.

Speaker 2:

And then Christmas came, then New Year's came, and then January 1st came and I hadn't really lost any weight and I didn't feel like amazing. I can't really feel amazing on January 1st. I live in Latin America. Sometimes we drink a little bit. I drink a little bit on New Year's Eve Not very often and so I'm not going to feel amazing.

Speaker 2:

And on that specific day I'm talking to my husband's cousin and she works for a very known plastic surgeon in Colombia and I just started asking her about liposuction. I think I was over 200 pounds at this point and she had a little calculator in her phone and she's too fat for liposuction, it's dangerous, you have to get bariatric surgery. And I'm like, okay, you know what, if I can lose X amount of pounds that you say I need to lose before I can get liposuction, I'm just going to lose that weight. I'm going to figure it out. And then a couple of months went by and I'm like, okay, that's it. March 1st, I have to eat this carnivore weight. I feel like this is going to work. I know that it's going to work for me.

Speaker 2:

I've tried everything else. I haven't really tried everything else, but dieting has been a theme in my life. Doing stupid stuff to my body has been a theme in my life and I started eating this way and a little bit more. So I'm upset about my weight. I have constant worry in my head about random things. When you eat wrong, you will have just constant worry. At the same time, I'm having gut issues on and off for years. If I said I had a bout of diarrhea once or twice a month, we'll just say once a month for many years. I don't think that's a lie, but not normal. By the way, also not normal to see your lettuce in your salad in the toilet, like you think something's wrong with your body, but really your body can't deal with it and so it puts it out. But it's not something that's wrong with. Your body can't deal with it and so it puts it out. But it's not something that's wrong with your body, it's something you shouldn't be putting in your body. If that's the result, I just want to say so. Those things were happening. The gut issues.

Speaker 2:

So I often say that I had a hope of. I had a hope that maybe my gut issues would resolve, but really it was vanity. That's why I started the carnivore diet vanity. I was so sick of being so inflamed, so puffy. Really it was vanity. That's why I started the carnivore diet Vanity. I was so sick of being so inflamed, so puffy. But within days of doing the carnivore diet I'm like oh, this is life changing. Remember I've done diets before. I've tried eating certain ways before I've done the HCG diet. Women, do not do that. Men do not do that. It will screw you up. Do you know what the HCG diet is?

Speaker 1:

I do not. I'm not familiar with it.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So I was 25 and I was again in my 150 pounds range-ish Me and my friends my friend who was even skinnier I normalize weight for her and beautiful and she's like we should do this diet. It's called the HSCG diet. So we're mid twenties and it's basically drops that you take. Hscg is the hormone that shows up on the pregnancy test to show that you're pregnant. So you take these drops, you eat a super low calorie diet, like maybe I want to say 1200 calories a day, and you're only allowed to eat specific foods, like an apple plus some dry chicken breast and water. And we did this for 21 days. I lost a bunch of weight. I was super skinny. After that was like the first time my weight skyrocketed to levels I had never seen before. Wow, I just say don't ever do that. Maybe it's illegal now, I don't know, but it should be. It should be so unhealthy. So anyways, I've done the dieting thing before.

Speaker 2:

So, within, I think, three days of I always say three days of doing the carnivore diet. I was like what is going on? This is amazing. I had so much energy. There's a video on my YouTube channel on day three of me doing it short. I was like what is going on? This is amazing. I had so much energy. There's a video on my YouTube channel on day three of me doing a short. I'm like it's 5 am and I'm up and walking around. This is crazy. So much energy.

Speaker 2:

I will say that I wasn't eating like a healthy diet or even attempting to do keto or anything like that before I started carnivore. I wouldn't say it's standard American diet either, because I don't live in the United States and the food in Columbia is, for sure, different, Totally different. When I go to the states and visit, I easily put on like 10 pounds 10 to 15 pounds because we're all going out to restaurants and stuff like that and you get into the seed oils. So this is how I think of it. So these are like milestones of eating this way. So first I just felt better. I could sleep like I hadn't slept in years. I could soundly sleep. Maybe I'd wake up. I used to dread sleeping because I'd be like I'm just lying here like tossing and turning and my mind keeps thinking and thinking and won't shut off so I could start. So I started sleeping and I was like what is going on? This is amazing. And then so for me, my sleep is just as important as my food, and if I eat bad I can't sleep. So that was the first thing.

Speaker 2:

Second thing I noticed I think it was like three weeks into carnivore that the 20 years of back pain and shoulder pain like here and here gone, Almost gone, Like almost perfect. I always say 85% gone because it's not like 100% of the time your back feels amazing. But to be from so much pain to like 85% reduced, how is this possible? In 12 days I lost 12 pounds. People, that's just water. I had so much inflammation and it just shrunk out of me by not eating carbohydrates. 21 days in these are approximate my period snuck up on me and that was like wait a second, what's going on? How come I don't have any cramps? I had some random cramps before, but I didn't correlate that with my menstrual cycle. So, like the day that my period started, with no pain, like nothing, and like life is like normal, Like this is incredible. I guess I have to explain.

Speaker 2:

I was never diagnosed with this, but I believe I had what is called endometriosis. Do you know what that is? Yeah, Okay, Should I explain in case people don't know what that is? Yeah, please go ahead. Okay, cool, you have your uterus lining and it goes out of control and it is from what I've studied on YouTube. It's either genetic or it's an autoimmune issue. My mom had apparently terrible menstrual cycles and also my grandmother had terrible menstrual cycles and she was told she was never going to have children from whatever condition she had. So if it's genetic, that makes sense, but I could also believe that it's autoimmune. So if your endometrial lining, if your uterus lining, is going all over the place and sticking itself to places it shouldn't be, and the hormones to start your period are having, you're having cramps and incredible pain in places you should not be having it. I would be on the floor. If you're on the floor writhing in pain, that's not normal. I don't know how many women experience that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Unfortunately it's very common that, yeah, unfortunately it's very common. For, yeah, common, and I believe it has 100 percent to do with junk food, ultra processed food. The joke, the ultra processed food. They just rebranded junk food. I thought that, yes, junk food, rebranded to seem not as bad. And then the seed oils. Because, man, I grew up on French fries. This is what I'd be like. I had such an addiction to french fries. If I ate french fries now, I would just eat them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, gosh, your health transformation, just from your journey of since being a kid and the things that your body been exposed to. And then the concepts right, the concepts that we grew up with, and also the body shaming, right, normally, yeah, to ourselves, but also what we see on tv, yes, exactly so. There's just, there's so much. Also a lifestyle component, of course, and our food, but also the mental component, right, like you were saying, on how we're, how the choices that we tend to make based on how we feel, how we we think we should look, oh, right, yeah, and the different standards, but the one you know and you said something really cool where it's the false data that it is out there, and I think one of the things as a practitioner, I'm often in contradiction what should I eat, right? Or this person says.

Speaker 1:

This person says that, yeah, and what book is right? And it's true, we are inundated with commercials that tells us this is what your healthy breakfast should be like, and it's cereal and Pop-Tarts and things that are not eggs but look like eggs, and things that are not butter but look like butter, oh, grassy. And then you have the vegan, the paleo, the vegetarians, the carnivore, and it's so confusing for people, and one of the things I really like to tell people is listen, you have a physiology, your body operates like. You have essential amino acids, you have essential fatty acids, but unfortunately or fortunately, I should say there are no essential carbohydrates.

Speaker 2:

I'm so happy you said that. Oh my God, Thank you so much for saying that. A hundred percent true. And I realized that in a year and a half, no essential carbohydrates yeah, have you ever heard of someone?

Speaker 1:

hey, these are like your essential carbohydrates and I, but we do have those essential amino acids and your essential fatty acids. We always try to tell people. We have to think of what your body needs, what your cells need, in order to be able to function. From a mitochondrial perspective, what does your electric transport chain need in order to you eat that food? You see a hamburger, french fries or cereal, but when you eat it, your body has to translate that into its other effect it's a carbohydrate or it's a protein, and your body is oh, you get this. You get that brain, you get this. Oh, brain, sorry, there's not enough fat, but the heart needs it. So, sorry, brain, you're going to have to be depleted of fat today because we didn't get enough of it. So we're always shortchanging the way that we're feeding ourselves and no wonder why we have now the epidemic of all these different illnesses.

Speaker 1:

And so, anyway, I love your timeline and the correlation and how you put all those things together and how you started feeding your body. The building blocks that it needed and you removed, because everyone can do great on a temporary fat diet and you do great because you remove, like you said, all the ultra processed food, the junk food. You remove all that stuff. Of course you're gonna do better. Of course you're going to, but, like you said, some people like do keto, like, I did keto too and I did like dirty keto and did that work for a little bit, yes, but then, like you said, you do something wrong, your body gets messed up and then all that weight comes back and then at the end of that cycle, gosh, your thyroid potentially now moves to work Because you messed it up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, wow, yeah, I'm so glad you said that. Oh man, I'm so glad you said that. Oh man, I'm so glad you said that. So you think that we need all these carbohydrates because all the propaganda, that's just yeah. And then, yeah, eating moderation, calories, a calorie? No, an Oreo is not the same as a ribeye, I don't care.

Speaker 1:

Right, exactly, yeah, and I'm a big fan of testing. Like I work with a lab it's called it's called vibrant labs and they have an amazing uh you know, uh got zoomer, so we run that panel when there's uh, you know, there's like mystery things going on with the digestion and, like you said, when you see the undigested food in your stool, that's not normal or when I'm pre-heared and I can't think of what's wrong with my stomach.

Speaker 2:

yeah, I'm not giving you what it needs. Yeah, it can't digest, exactly, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I always think I like people like how do we know? Like what's with this whole carnivore thing? I'm like look at your body. We have canines, cows do not? How many stomachs do we have? How many stomachs do cows have? House have? Almost, yeah, the body. Exactly. Because I think if we think that way, then we know, then it's no longer becomes what so-and-so is saying or what and and again.

Speaker 1:

In my opinion, you have to work on something and just because it doesn't work the first time, or you're bent on it and then you give up, you're like, oh, this wasn't for me. No, give it time because, yeah, it does take time for the body to process those changes. Sure, and what, from what I've experienced, like a period of three months for that, exactly. Yeah, for the gut microbiome to balance, because correct me if I'm wrong when you're, when you did carnivore, or from what I understand, when you change, the gut microbiome needs to also, it changes with the things that you're doing right yeah, exactly, I will say some people report experiencing like diarrhea from eating that level of fat and their body's not used to it.

Speaker 2:

I didn't experience that. I experienced the reverse because I was already experiencing that. But my, my, my stools we, by the way, in the carnivore community we talk about poop all the time but my stools were odd, but they weren't that, it was just switching over and I think in about three months it looked like oh, this is normal, but not being in pain was great. Having stomach cramps was great and it happened all the time, but enough to be disruptive of a normal life, yeah, and cycles.

Speaker 1:

We were saying how many women think that having this awful menstrual cramps it's normal. Or you go on the pill Like I'm young women.

Speaker 2:

I forgot about that, not for that. But then I was like, oh wow, my period is a little bit nicer, but that's terrible. Like the pill is terrible, it has terrible ramifications. Yeah, I know a girl 14 years old, 15 years old the family's a friend of friends of mine. She went on the pill for endometriosis. That was her diagnosis from the doctor. She got a stroke. She had a stroke or a blood clot at 14. And this is it, says it right there. It says it in the thing that I didn't bother to read, didn't care to read, literally, I was a smoker at the time. It says this could cause blood clots, especially if you're a smoker. Didn't care, don't think I was one in a million because you're dumb. You're like invincible when you're 18 and stupid, 19, 20, whatever, yeah, you don't care. And then later you're like, oh, I wish I cared. When you're 40, I wish I cared. Yeah, that is true, that is true. I hope they have that thought process.

Speaker 2:

If I could go back and talk to my 20 year old. What would I say? I should do the video of me talking to my 14 year old self, because then I wouldn't have suffered. I always say the most. The thing that I remember the most is I had a dental operation and it went south and I had to be on like fake Vicodin. It was Vicodin, but not the prescription Vicodin. What the dentist told me it was like cause it was whatever generic Vicodin and Tylenol 800. And that dental operation coincided with my period starting and I was like, oh no, I don't have any period cramps, but you should not have to be on like narcotics to not feel your period. That's like huge. Other medications that I would take would just take the edge off a little bit so that when I was like walking around working, I would only want to kill you, not being if you feel like you want to kill somebody. This is not normal, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But then again we're bombarded with this messages like commercials and medication.

Speaker 2:

My all isn't that? The period one Take, your might all.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, or something like that, yeah, yeah and gosh and the things. We trust our experts. We trust our experts, we trust our medical system. But unfortunately, a medical system it's not broken system and it's a system that does not work and that is what can. It leads us to that over prescription of whatever because and like you said, we want to feel better. Yeah, I let me take the pill because then I can go to work. I'm a single mother of two and I have to make money for my kids and, right, we are in this environment where unfortunately we are. We may have to do some of those things, but I think it's important to advocate for our own health and understand what we need to do. And my husband is trying to do carnivore. You mentioned candida. Yeah Well, he tried to go carnivore like hardcore. He did ingredient leave. He had the point where he's like I need to know it's time to remove dairy from this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm to know it's time to remove daring from this. And he poor guy, he had such a hard time and then we discovered cause I do muscle testing, so it was muscle testing him and and his gut was just not feeling good and I'm like, well, let's see what's going on. And it was a candida flare up for him as well as yeah, as well as parasites. The parasites were just like literally experienced.

Speaker 1:

Yes, right, yeah, the parasites and the candida were just like do not take this off our mania. Like we want the dairy and we want the sugar that is in the bakery yes, yes, I forgot about that that you crave dairy when you have parasites.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I wonder if I'm experiencing anything bad.

Speaker 2:

I've been on dairy multiple times, but I totally forgot about that. I haven't learned about that in the last seven years and I've done various either a cleanse or take the medication. And I don't really care that I take the medication. It's like a dollar here in Columbia and I don't. You don't feel so bad. But I remember when my kids were taking the kids to the pediatrician, they want you to take a parasite cleanse every six months and we don't think about that in the US or like doing parasite handling and we really should. So what?

Speaker 1:

there's many levels of carnivore.

Speaker 2:

So there's various versions. I always tell people and I don't work for Ken Berry, but I love Ken Berry, ken Berry MD on YouTube. I've done two live streams with him and a group of other people, like a panel or two, but he's amazing and he's from Tennessee, so if you like, the people from the South or he's from the South, he lives in Tennessee, he's got that accent. But he presents carnivore in such a way that it's very easy to get onto and follow and he has various recommendations and so I try to follow that and I often put his video that I follow in my YouTube descriptions on videos because I want people to go to him, because it's the source of carnivore for me, even though people before 50 years ago we were all eating a lot of meat yep until, like, all of a sudden, meat's giving you heart disease, which is total baloney.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I eat olives or pickles, yeah yeah, but most of my food is like eggs and some sort of meat. Great, that's most of my food, and I'm getting off dairy this week for a different thing I'm trying to handle.

Speaker 1:

That makes sense and I think sometimes another question that also may come up, the environmental impact.

Speaker 2:

Because cows' food or barks, cows' barks, I know right. Yeah, here's what I'm going to say. Leonardo DiCaprio, being an activist, literally flies his jet all over the planet. I believe. I think he's got boats, People, let's be real here. You're going to tell me that's less harmful than cows that have been on the planet for hundreds of thousands of years, animals that have been on the planet for a very long time heating and pooping and making our soil beautiful.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we don't talk about and I don't usually talk about this because I don't want to like ruffle any feathers but you have monocropping. It destroys our soil. We need the cows to poop on that and fart. I don't know what to say. They have to fertilize the ground and we are literally destroying our soil constantly. And then we have all the chemicals that they put on it.

Speaker 2:

How many bugs that we need for our ecosystem are killed with everything that we spray on our crops? How about the glyphosate? This stuff is terrible and those are endocrine disruptors. And we're eating this and we're eating in our bread. Like, I'm curious if 30 years ago, people could eat like a little bit of bread and not have the problems that they have today.

Speaker 2:

That because of all the stuff that we spray, but every year, millions of animals are killed and millions of life forms are killed by all of our monocropping. And so you have these like activists that are just feeding us a bunch of baloney about how people that eat meat or anybody that eat meat, you don't have to be a carnivore. It's like destroying the environment. It's not true. I think our animals need to be treated correctly and they need to be raised correctly. I'm totally all for that. But if we look at the greatest good for the greatest number of the plant like things that people groups are animals the monocropic is far worse than the cows pooping and farting. The celebrities with all the jets flying all over the place on their higher moral grounds are literally lying to us?

Speaker 1:

You don't. You have to put all that into perspective. Yeah, because when you shop local, when you grow your own food right, if you are going to be doing vegetables. When you raise your own animals for feeding time, yeah, that's not ethical. So, yes, if you are. But again, it's like the system is so messed up, right, like the socioeconomical system that we unfortunately live in. But the glass will say how it just really acts as a antibiotic and if you're always eating it, then that is going to impact your salivation. But you're right, we don't think of it.

Speaker 1:

And I guess, back in the original French fries from McDonald's, they had two ingredients, maybe three Potatoes. Right, it was real potatoes. Yeah, and time, yeah, exactly, it's so delicious. Yeah, don't give up on rhyme. And then, right now, if you read the label, it's like is there even potatoes here? There's potato starch, this starch and all the seed oils and all that stuff. So I think it's easy for someone to be like, oh my gosh, the carnivores are like destroying the planet because all these animals, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, let's step back. And I think there is far worse things that are destroying our planet right now and that there's not certainly the people who are eating for their physiology.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, exactly, exactly. I just want to make a point and I had to realize this while doing the carnivore diet and studying and understanding things, because I never thought about this before but what we put into our mouth creates the body. It creates all the cells in the body. So if you're feeding it junk food, if you're feeding it ultra processed food things with all these seed oils in it, that's what your body has to try to develop the cells with and it's not gonna. It's not gonna create the hormones it needs to have your menstrual cycle, create testosterone for the like. It's not gonna. It's doing the best job it can with the garbage you're literally putting into your body. And, by the way, I don't hate vegetables. If people can eat vegetables and they like vegetables and has no problem in their body, go ahead and eat them.

Speaker 2:

I'm not that lucky. I can do olives it happens to be a fruit. I can do pickles Happens to be a fruit. I can do. Avocados Happens to be a fruit, not even a vegetable Like. Those are the few I think I can do sauerkraut Last time I ate sauerkraut and it's like exploding in my gut, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I was. There's some things I can do, but I can't eat a beautiful kale arugula salad like, yeah, and it'd be damn fine. I'm not against you, yeah, I'm on the same team.

Speaker 1:

Eat one whole, one ingredient, whole foods yeah, exactly yeah, and at the same time, also like finding out kale is very high in oxalates. Sure Spanish is high in oxalates. Gosh sweet potatoes are my favorite, blackberries I love blackberries. For a while I had to give up almonds because this can of almonds have a lot of oxalates, and oxalates are just natural occurring chemicals that are in plants because, as a defense mechanism against us who want to eat them right, you want to eat them yeah, yeah, realize that either, like when all these plants have these defense mechanisms because they don't have teeth, they can't run away from you legs right yeah yeah, they don't have legs, they can't run, they don't have teeth, they can't defend themselves.

Speaker 2:

so they've figured out a way to defend themselves and they like certain animals to eat them and they don't like certain animals to eat them and then it depends. So I live in it's very funny, I live in. It's called semi-rural Columbia. If you looked out my window it looks very rural. There's like a huge mountain in front of me literally in front of me.

Speaker 2:

I'll send you a picture afterwards. I'm 20 minutes away from a Colombia. That's why we call it semi-rural. But where am I going with this? Oh man, I lost my train of thought Because this guy randomly, sometimes he brings cows here just to eat the grass, not at our place, but right next to us in a public area. And it's very funny. You just randomly see cows eating grass everywhere.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but what a way of like regenerative farming. Yeah, this grass is so tall, I know all grass can't grow this tall.

Speaker 2:

I know it's like a specific type of grass, but it's so tall. I'm like, didn't they just eat all that? Like, how did that grow so fast? And it's because they were pooping while they're eating.

Speaker 1:

I know all that beautiful fertilizer, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah no, I forgot what I was gonna say. I'm sorry, I confided no, that's all right.

Speaker 1:

yeah, sometimes, when I find out what people eat for their physiology, right, like, even if, even, like you say, like we're not 100 against plants, only plants plants are evil. But also there's a specific bacteria in in the gut that is meant to be neutralizing the effects of this oxalate, right, oh, okay, so if you're someone who loves plants, who loves to eat vegetables, but you bloat because it's not uncommon for people to bloat after eating vegetables and okay, let's find out what's going on with the gut, right Again, what is the root cause of not being able to do carnivore, or not be able to do whatever lifestyle, because I no longer call them diet or a?

Speaker 2:

lifestyle good paleo person. Be a good vegan. Be a good vegetarian, especially when I work with vegetarians and with vegans.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, hey, lisandra, you got your reasons for why you're doing this and I get it could be health, could be ethical, but all I care is that you're eating all your amino acid profiles every day. Are you doing that? And people are like, no, are you really going to eat that much protein? No, are you supplementing B12? So, whatever you get into, be a good one, like a good carnivore. Your organ meats, right, like how many nutrients are in river that you could that I don't get all my minerals if I don't eat my, my, my plants, my vegetables, hello liver has a lot of those nutrients and those very essential minerals that you need, whatever you are.

Speaker 2:

Any liver. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Yeah, no, go ahead If you don't. If you can't, if you can't do beef liver, try pork liver. If you can't do pork liver, try chicken liver. Find liverwurst. I call it the gateway drug to liver Braunschweiger. Find some good, clean version of Braunschweiger. In two weeks I'm going to do a video about how to make your own liver supplements at home, because I know also people are marketing this and they can be very expensive, but you can actually make it at home. Wow, like the freshest version. So that's coming in two weeks because it has to be in my fridge. It has to be in my freezer for two weeks before I can do the thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, that's awesome, that's awesome. How do you feel like carnivore evolving? No, that's awesome, that's awesome. How do you feel like carnivore evolving? One could say it's trendy right now. It's the latest thing there's a lot of people talking about, yeah, and I think a lot of people are getting so many benefits health benefits, mental benefits from eating for their physiology.

Speaker 2:

So where do you see carnivore going in the future. I think more and more people if we can get rid of some of the false data which is, I think, like people like me are trying to do just like. If you need meat, people have been lying to you. It's going to help you. I don't think I want to say I don't think everyone needs to eat this way and I don't think everyone also needs to eat this way forever. I just feel better with a few like. Sometimes I will eat a few things, like I said, by the way, way, I am an avid coffee drinker and that's obviously a plant.

Speaker 2:

I live in Colombia. How can I not drink coffee? I know? I think, like what we're trying to do here, it's like a grassroots movement of us YouTubers, instagrammers, tiktokers talking about this because, because it helped us so much and we want other people to have the same wins that we've had. Like we want other people to be helped because, like really in the us, I think we I haven't studied other than other youtubers, but doctors say that it's like the most obese country and one of the highest rated obese countries in the world.

Speaker 2:

I did a google search. There's some little island that has a higher obesity rate per capita because it doesn't have as many people, I think. Does that make sense? Yeah, and apparently for my google research, my ai research, they have a lot of coca-cola there, so it's american influence. Uh, going to that island, that happens before and they can eat these foods cheaply, which it's terrible. Yeah, so I hope that it more and more people can see that it's actually okay to eat a certain way, like eggs are not your problem. I remember somebody like it's in the back of my mind I was eating eggs. Eggs have cholesterol. Your body produces more cholesterol than any amount of food that you can eat in a day. Like your brain is 80% cholesterol. How can this possibly be bad?

Speaker 1:

It's bad when you enter the diet food, yeah, and you need it. Right For hormones. We just we're talking about hormones. When you look at a hormone chart that you know, by the way, super confusing when you look at all the different pathways and what makes blood and blood, at the top you'll see cholesterol. So cholesterol is so important Back in the seventies and normal cholesterol according to medical standards was like 270 or something like that for women.

Speaker 2:

Oh wow, I've talked to and there's a, I don't remember, but I've talked to a cardiologist, I've talked to an obesity specialist that are in like the low carb space and they looked at my blood work and one guy was like your cholesterol levels are like the like a healthy 10 year old, and this was like maybe eight months, nine months, maybe a year into carnivore, like something a little bit less than that. But I've been consuming so many products and so many foods that have so much cholesterol. How is it possible that my blood work in the cholesterol region is so good? I know right.

Speaker 1:

Like it's normal. You're an abnormality. It's not supposed to be that way.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how many carnivores there are. There's definitely in the tens of thousands, maybe the hundreds of thousands, and not everybody is as willful as I am, but it's just helped me so much. I went out and I just can I just give a rundown of, like, other random things, yeah, have occurred to me while eating this way. Yeah, um, so I had eczema on my hand. It started in 2020 when we had to keep spraying alcohol on our hands if we wanted to go into any buildings. I don't think it was because I didn't. I don't believe I actually had that virus at that time. I might've had it since then, but it started then and it was like red and inflamed and sometimes bleeding. It would be all flaky like eczema, but only on my hands, and then I got a little bit of fear. It's taken quite a while, but my eczema is cleared up. Other people have had psoriasis all over their body and they went to strictly like ruminant meat, I think, or a very stricter version of carnivore, and it cleared up. From what I know, you guys, if you're interested, if you have skin issues, just go to TikTok. Go to YouTube. Tiktok will destroy your attention. Go to YouTube and find these people Do psoriasis, carnivore and people have videos Eczema, carnivore and people have videos.

Speaker 2:

I interviewed a guy that had eczema his entire life. It was destroying his life as a baby and he's 25. He lives in Australia and he talks about it on Instagram. Doing the carnivore diet healed his eczema and I think he should. Six months to a year, but like entire body eczema, like he couldn't even work. He's a musician and he teaches piano and he couldn't get any clients because people thought they were going to get his disease. Obviously you can't get eczema, but that's what his one was and he said my clients that I do have. I think they stuck with me. They were just. They just felt bad for me. But so my eczema on my hand went away three months into carnivore.

Speaker 2:

So I had to see juicy sections, like I mentioned earlier. My scar never properly healed, like the wound site never properly healed. It would be itchy, it would smell bad. I would like vigorously try to wash it to think that would help. Probably didn't, but whenever good bacteria was on my skin I was constantly washing away. So sometimes it would have a leakage or something like a little bit. I'm not trying to like it wasn't like an open wound that was just draining full time. But it what happened? So, within three months of carnivore, my husband oh wow, the skin is, it looks normal, it's totally healed and I'm going to correlate that to you're eating like cartilage or eating all these things that I wasn't eating before.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that carnivore is magical, by the way. I don't think it's like some magic. I think, like you eat so much crap, your body magic. I think, like you eat so much crap, your body's trying to deal with all the crap you're putting into it and it's trying to make up. You have so many fires and your body's trying to deal with it. So if you just remove the crap and put the stuff it actually needs into it in a high enough volume, you let your body do the thing it naturally knows how to do. You have a car. It needs gasoline. You put diesel in it. It's going to break. We're putting too much diesel and not enough gasoline in our cars and it will repair itself. Might take a long time, might take a little time. Different things happen.

Speaker 2:

Funny thing is, when I had kids, my, I, my foot got so big and it wasn't fat. Like it wasn't fat, it was just what do you call it? Edema, edema? Yeah, I had edemaema, but it was. It must have been full of water. My natural, like adult shoe size is seven and a half medium or seven half wide. I it just expanded and sometimes I was buying size nine shoes or size 40 because I'm in columbia men's gym shoes, because I couldn't find any shoes to fit. So in march I visited home, I went, I visited my mom and we went shopping and I'm like oh wow, these and a half these cute women's shoes actually fit me Seven and a half medium. I'm like this is an incredible way because I never thought. I don't think pregnant women realize that their feet can go back to normal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you eat the right food and you stop eating all the garbage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and with pregnancy, like you said, you're this concept you're eating for two and then there's, like this carb lunch on, I'm craving ice cream, I feel full in the morning or I'm craving pizza, or I'm in and because of the potential, because of the hormone surges that women go through when they have kids, potentially loved ones don't want to deal with the cascade of that. So they just give me an email like, okay, eat this, but but no. And then you wonder why you're. We're a mess right After people give birth and can't bounce back to normal weight.

Speaker 1:

And my boss, she, she was pregnant and four years ago and she, people could not believe that she was pregnant. Her face was not, her face was even slender and she had this amazing glow and she's been. She's not carnivore but she's very whole foods nutrition. And we did we had done prior to that, we did a lot of detoxing with parasites and stuff like that, but people could not believe that she was pregnant. There's this misconception you're pregnant, you're gonna balloon. Why? Because we're eating all this processed foods that our body doesn't need and, like you said, our cars, our bodies, need the right type of fuel. When we give them, then you have food. You make it into fuel and the cells have energy.

Speaker 1:

If you have healthy cells, you have healthy tissues, healthy organs and you have a healthy body and being able to recover from illness is potentially faster when your body is operating at a higher level in state Sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly yeah.

Speaker 1:

I love it, yeah. So what are some of? No, that's right. What are some of the other authors or people that you think, hey, follow this other person? Because, again, there's a lot of information out there and for someone who's just starting to be like, hey, I want to give carnivore a try. What would be like a quick beginner's guide to it?

Speaker 2:

Ken Berry's how to Do Carnivore Diet 2024.

Speaker 1:

Okay, perfect, I just want to confuse people.

Speaker 2:

Other doctors that I love and I've been in touch with in the last year and a half, who are amazing people. Dr Robert Kiltz he's a fertility specialist, one of the top fertility specialists, I think, on the planet. Have you heard of him? He has CYN. He's amazing. You should have him on your channel or on your podcast. I'm sure he'd love to be here. Brilliant, beautiful human being. He has a great story, but he does carnivore and he has. He even has a carnivore ice cream because he's.

Speaker 2:

If you're going to cut everything else out, you can try this once in a while. And then there's Anthony Chafee. Dr Anthony Chafee, he's a brain surgeon because he is very strict carnivore. So I don't say go to him directly. I love him, but it might turn some people go straight to him Beef diet. That's why I say go to kenberry. I tell me so much. Maybe one day I will just do like a test of the meat salt water and see how I feel. But yeah, I haven't gotten to that point yet. I love my eggs. It's not true, he, that's what he eats. But he also says you can eat some dairy. Anthony Chafee also says you can eat some eggs, but he says no coffee and I think that turns people off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah we are addicted to coffee. I'm one of those.

Speaker 2:

But he's extremely intelligent also, so he has a lot of good data. I would just say, like, if you wanted to study, some people study those three, but the main person that I've studied that's helped me in my life is Kym Dury. That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

So tell us about the nonprofit foundation that you've been working with or helping out.

Speaker 2:

We're just volunteers at this point. We're trying to make it a nonprofit. It's not a nonprofit because we have to pay taxes, gotcha, and it's like a deal to do that, but we're making a documentary. It's called Healing Humanity the Power of the Proper Human Diet, and this was originated by another YouTuber. His name is Carrie Mann Jr and his channel is Homestead how I'm going to shamelessly promote it here. He's the director, he was the mastermind behind this and he's the director of that documentary and we are following.

Speaker 2:

We're documenting stories of people that follow a carnivore diet and the life-changing things that have happened to them in this way. There's a gentleman, he lives in Alaska. His name is Bill Knott. He also has a YouTube channel. Feel free to check it out. He was over 700 pounds, or over 700 pounds in the last year. Following it, he was trapped inside of his eight by eight room. That was his house. He had a toilet like a few feet from his bed. He couldn't even walk up straight, like he was bending over just to get to his toilet, locked like a prisoner in his body and a prisoner in his house. So he's lost 260 pounds in the last year following a carnivore way of eating and now he like finally went outside. He was inside of his house for four years Can you imagine that? But your door is like right there and you can't even leave.

Speaker 2:

So we're documenting these people that have had miraculous wins and successes with eating this way, because we want to show people that it's actually okay and that you've been lied to. We don't say it that way, though. We don't say that you've been lied to for years. We're not doing it that way, but we want to just show, like, the good things that can happen and show people you don't have to be scared by eating your ruminant meat, eating your bacon, eating your eggs. There you go.

Speaker 2:

I've helped fundraise. I'm not going to take full responsibility, but we fundraise over to, I think, over $200,000 for that, and I've helped generate a lot of that by creating events and most of it's been like nickel and diming, by the way and crowdfunding and YouTube, and that's why I say it's very grassroots, because these people maybe they don't have a YouTube channel, but they also want to help. So they've donated to our project. That's awesome and I think we're going to be done. Shooting Carrie said so. He's been shooting. We did a fundraiser last September and made almost $40,000, I think, or over $45,000. We were up for 24 hours. I hate to use this word. I still have PTSD. It was my idea. It was on my birthday.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't stand for the full 24 hours and I think the thing actually went up for 27 hours. No, in front of your computer at the 10-hour mark, I'm like this is crazy, I can't keep, I can't see here any longer. But, oh my god, the things you do when you, yes, passionate about something. So I think we started filming after that because we had a good chunk of money, and he started filming with another gentleman named Adam Lacey his channel's card on board. Today. I'm gonna just shamelessly shout out my friends, please, that's okay. Carrie and Adam have worked very hard on this documentary, while also continuing to interview people and testimonials just for their channels, in addition to the documentary.

Speaker 2:

By the way, who knows Jordan Peterson? I do not. You don't know Jordan Peterson. I don't think. I know. He's a psychologist from Canada. He's very well known. I think.

Speaker 2:

He has like 20 million followers. He has 10 million on Twitter. He saw our trailer, the one that I sent you this morning, yeah, and he reposted it on Twitter to his like 10 million followers and he said this is like a very needed documentary because him and his daughter and his wife all follow a carnivore way of eating. His daughter started it. Mykyla Peterson. Oh, yeah, is that the lion diet yeah, the lion way of eating, because all she can really eat is meat. All she can eat is remnant animals. But she cured like 20 years of depression. She was on psychiatric medications for such a long time and she was diagnosed with all these physical body problems. People can go to her channel and see her, but so she's a big advocate for this way of eating, and so is her dad, and she got her dad off of psychiatric medications through following a carnivore way of eating. Wow, but no, he is very well known, and so it's crazy that he promoted our documentary on his Twitter.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, that's awesome, because I get. Is that willingness to this? Professionals, opinion leaders, community leaders, people who are out there, the willingness to unlearn, to learn something? And if you have, the proof is in the pudding, yes, the carnivore pudding then?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can make that. By the way, it's heavy whipping cream and gelatin, flavorless gelatin. You can make a carnivore pudding.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly, so we're not missing much, right? That's awesome. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, my God, I have loved our conversation so much. Yeah, are there any last words of wisdom you'd like to leave the listeners with?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'm going to say, if you want to try this, I would do it for like 90 days. Go watch that video I mentioned a couple of times on Ken Perry's channel. Literally, eating this way is not going to kill you. Nothing is going to kill you in 90 days. If you've been eating pizza for your lifetime, eating this way is not going to kill you in 90 days and you might have some miraculous results. Also, you don't have to continue to stay to eat this way, like you can reintroduce foods that you want to eat again after the 90 day period.

Speaker 2:

I think the reason they say 90 days is it resets your gut, so you're going to get rid of a lot of stuff. You're going to have a lot of improvements and I just say, why not try it If you've tried everything and you're hopeless about your body or maybe you have mental health issues? This has helped so many people with their body and mental health issues. I do want to say I have several stories on my channel of people getting off their antidepressants and their psychiatric medications through eating this way. With that extra note don't go off your psychiatric medications out of the blue. Don't throw them in the toilet. It has to be done properly and taper, but this is a good tool to help you get off of them. If you want to get off of them and that's my last words of wisdom, there you go.

Speaker 1:

I love it, I love it. I love it so much. Alia, thank you so much for being with us today and from beautiful Colombia, and yeah, so we're going to make sure to include all the information that you mentioned, all the amazing accounts that people should follow that you are being a part of, because it's literally one person that we get to enlighten. Educate at a time is what's going to create a difference, and that's the one that actually create a system of healthcare versus the system of sick care. We're just managing our symptoms through other it could be medication supplementation, all the different biohacking things that we need to do just to keep it together. How do we really get to the root cause? And I think diet is huge, and eating for your physiology and really understanding what that means, and I am very on board with carnivores. So, thank you so much for educating us and yeah, so, with nothing else to end, thank you so much everyone for sticking around and I hope you enjoyed this episode and we'll see you next time. Bye.