Root Cause Solutions For You

Navigating the Path of Infertility: A Holistic Approach with Tara Scaringi

• Fabiola Reyes, Root Cause Expert, Cert. AK, CellCore & Nutrition Response Testing® Practitioner • Season 1 • Episode 15

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Join us for a heart-to-heart with Tara  Scaringi, PA-C, MS, CSCS, as we dive into the potential root causes of infertility. She shares her remarkable journey, the roadblocks she conquered, and how she emerged victorious in her battle to conceive.

This is no ordinary chat. We navigate the often-underestimated path of a holistic approach to fertility. We're not just talking about physical health. We're talking about emotional and mental wellness, too. We dive deep into the importance of stress, adrenal function, liver, and thyroid health in fertility. Tara shares invaluable insights on identifying and addressing underlying health issues rather than conforming to a one-size-fits-all approach. Together, we uncover how environmental factors and stressors affect fertility and hormone production.

The journey doesn't stop at conceiving. Tara brings to light the monumental importance of self-advocacy, both in trying to conceive and parenting. With a success story from one of her clients, we highlight the need for women to understand their bodies and hormones better. We stress the importance of questioning, researching, and ensuring that you are not just a passive participant but an active stakeholder when interacting with practitioners. Tara's story is a testament to the power of perseverance, self-care, and the mantra of trusting the process.

Ready to work with Tara's team? You can reach them at https://716synergy.com/

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Fabiola :

Hi everyone, thank you so much for joining us for another episode of. For you, my name is Fabiola and I am your host. I am super happy to have as a special guest speaker today Tara Skarengi, who is an amazing person. She's an amazing practitioner. I've had the privilege to be taught by her on different clinical pearls and just the guidance that she's giving me as a practitioner has been amazing. She's got a master's in exercise science. She is a physician's assistant and also has a certified strength and conditioning specialist Awesome, all right, tara. Well, thank you so much for being here today. Thanks for having me. Yeah, well, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Tara :

Oh my gosh. So I've jumped around quite a bit over the years in terms of what I was doing, what I was specializing in, what I was working in. As you mentioned, I went to school to be a physician assistant. Prior to that, I was working as an athletic trainer and a strength coach and just wanted to do more for people. So I went back to school to work as a PA, quickly learned my first year working in internal medicine which would have been back in 2009, that people were just really sick and we were managing their symptoms rather than really getting to the cause of what was going on.

Tara :

I didn't have that all quite put together at that point, but I knew I didn't like giving medications out all the time. So I transitioned from primary care into orthopedics, which I was familiar with from my background. I've been working orthopedics ever since, although now I only work a couple days a week I'm sorry, a couple days a month in orthopedics as I support my husband's practice synergy nutrition and wellness from a holistic perspective. And then I work for cell core biosciences and really have a thorough understanding now of getting more to root cause and really getting to the reasons why people are sick and helping them to get well and achieve the health that they want.

Fabiola :

That's awesome, that's such a purpose line, and I think a lot of people who have gone to school or have had some sort of aspiration in regards to being in the health field go in with that intention right, With the intention of okay, I'm going to help someone and this is why I'm becoming a nurse or a doctor or you name it, whatever career or path within that.

Tara :

And I think it's hard to like kind of look yourself in the mirror and say, okay, well, what did I learn? Why am I doing it, what risks are there, what pros and cons are there, and then just really be able to analyze like, well, what am I doing? And then make those changes. That's hard to do once you've gone to school to learn it one way and then you're realizing maybe that's not the only way and there's a better way.

Fabiola :

Right, yes, no for sure. Well, tell us a little bit. I mean, I know from the work that we've done together, interactions we've had together, that you have a miracle story.

Fabiola :

And I think that's I wanted with, so psyched that you are here with us today, because I think a lot of women do struggle with struggle with infertility and when it is, when you think of it as such a heartbreaking journey for some women who are really trying to to create a family, who try IBF, who try surrogacy, you know all different kinds of ways in which they could create a family. So tell us a little bit about that part of your life.

Tara :

Sure, so I am currently married. I was previously married and in my first marriage I was never able to get pregnant, which, of course, was a blessing in disguise in the long run. But six years married there never was able to conceive. Remarried in 2015 and, you know, five years into our marriage, still not able to conceive. So we're talking 10, 11 years, you know, with real, no, really no explanation of like well, what's going on.

Tara :

I, you know, considered myself a healthy person. I had made, you know, maybe not initially had made a lot of dietary changes, but I, you know, considered myself healthy. I worked out, I was then, I was never had any medical issues and then changed my diet and did a whole all these things that you know was hoping would would help to, you know, make me be able to get pregnant. Naturally, it was never. I had never really was interested in IVF and all of those things, just because it just didn't sit right with me. I just always felt that if this isn't happening the way it's meant to, so to speak, you know, and I know that's different for everybody's personal judgment, but for me, if it wasn't happening the way I felt it was meant to happen, like what am I forcing my body to do that it's not prepared for? And it was. It was difficult.

Tara :

I had ultimately, you know, done some blood work and had a couple tests done to just see, you know, was there any issues with structural issues, my flow-up in tube ovaries, et cetera. All my labs kind of came back normal. You know, as they often do when we hear our patients come to us from a functional perspective and my thyroid is one of those things that was read as normal there was actually another hormone they test for, to test your ovarian health, to see the age, you know, the health of status of your eggs, and I'm, of course considered geriatric. I'm 44 now, so I was considered geriatric at you know, in my low to mid 30s when I was getting these tests done and this one number read as low and they said well, you know, your chances of getting pregnant are pretty slim, the quality of your eggs is not great. And you know, I kind of chuckled at that, a little bit like okay, I'm going to prove them wrong. So at that time I, you know, was just changing my diet, just doing some cleanup, working on, you know, thyroid stuff, and unfortunately things still weren't changing. The one thing I did see change when I repeated that blood work is that AMH level went up and they were kind of shocked, like we don't see that happen. Why did that level improve? And I, you know, just kind of smiled so I'm doing some stuff holistically. Still wasn't pregnant.

Tara :

I did try an IUI at that time, so intrauterine insemination, which they will often do with, like Femara or Chlomid, which I deferred and just tried the IUI on its own, and it failed. And I remember just being devastated and at that point I was like all right, this is out of my hands, I'm done, I can't keep. You know, my husband would always say to me you're holding on to something so tightly, you're going to break it. And I'm like okay, like I get it now, like I'm just done, let me put it aside. And you know, just move on with my life.

Tara :

At that time I had a spare room that I walked past you know how many times a day. That was just loaded with storage stuff and I was eagerly awaiting to put a nursery in there and I was like you know what? I'm going to make this a room for my nieces and my nephew, and that's what it'll be. So I ordered furniture and got this whole room set up. My husband went down to train with a doctor in Texas at that time, dr Roby Mitchell, who's passed away and I remember him calling me from down there and I knew of Roby and had followed him and loved his approach to everything, but certainly didn't really know him. So he calls me from down there, my husband, when he was visiting Roby and said Roby said he's sending me home with some products and to go buy the car seat. And I'm like, okay, who's this guy, roby, and is he crazy? I've been trying to do things for 10 years and nothing has worked. So sure, we'll try what he's saying and we'll go from there.

Tara :

At that time it was some products to get my thyroid in check. It was a natural product called Spark Plug that we still utilize in our practice to support thyroid health and it's a glandular from bovine glandular thyroid glandular and so I used that and I used the topical progesterone cream made from Wild Yam for one month and I was pregnant and I was blown away Like wow, was this all? It was all this time that I just wasn't, my thyroid wasn't as normal as I thought it was and progesterone Like was my progesterone just not increasing enough. Maybe I was getting pregnant I had never had any, no miscarriages but maybe, and I wasn't able to sustain because of the progesterone level. It was definitely a shock when I took that test and realized I was pregnant after all those years. So that was with my first, with my daughter Vianna, and she'll be three in January.

Fabiola :

Well, congratulations.

Tara :

Yeah, thank you.

Fabiola :

Yeah, and it's so interesting because so many times we're so concentrated and attention is on one single thing and how spot on your husband wants about letting go Right, and then it's like not to compare this to losing your keys right or losing your. I lose my debit card all the time.

Tara :

Oh, my wallet. I'm always looking for it.

Fabiola :

Yeah, right, yeah, frantically. And my husband Ryan, he's always like just let it go for a second and I'm just like, no, I need to find this right now. So, with that same mentality when it comes to our body's healing and our bodies Because they're so intelligent, right, they know how to heal and repair. And you did something very rude cost. You just gave your body exactly what it was needed, but it was also that letting go of something and you were on create mode and voila. So that's all For sure.

Tara :

Yeah, just remembering another piece of that story, when I did kind of finally let go, I had gone down to. I have two good friends I went to high school with and we always, especially before I had kids. Now I have young kids and they have kids that are teenagers and they're 20s and we're all the same age. So they're kind of moving on to a different part of their life and I'm just getting started with my kids. But before I had kids we would meet up once a year, more than that, but we'd take a trip once a year together and that particular year we went to Charleston and I remember being on the plane and I was reading a book by Gabby Bernstein. I think it's the universe has your back, and not because of pregnancy or infertility. I was just reading her book and then there was a section in there where she talks about infertility and her own struggles and she talks about her own letting go and she talks about how she did it and how she wrote it down and she put it in this special box and left it there for a week and then burned it that message a week later and kind of just as a symbolic let go of it. So I kind of had that in my mind when I went down to Charleston and we happened to be walking around a flea market and there was a vendor there that had a bunch of handmade wooden things. And there was a box and it had a tree etched on the top of it and I just loved it. It was like the tree of life and I was like, okay, I just read that book, like I'm gonna do the same thing, I'm gonna use this box for that. So I did. I got that box, I wrote down what that desire was, I put it in the box. I can't say I actually burned it, but I left it in the box and kind of just let go of it. So that box is still sitting on my dresser now and now instead there's some reminders of my pregnancies in that box along with that.

Tara :

You know, no, I had written to kind of let go of that desire. So, yeah, I agree, I think there is that structural, physical piece of it that we need to get to root cause of. Well, why isn't it happening? And then that also just as difficult as it is. Because it was, you know, people would tell me all the time just let it be, just let it be, but until you're on your own, ready to just let it be. Like it's not fun to hear that from people that you know don't thoroughly understand what you're going for, although their intentions are good. But yeah, it does take that like letting go of. Okay, let me just put it aside.

Tara :

And it was, you know, those two things the failed IUI, and then that stripped to Charlotte or Charleston and just had put it aside. And that was how I got pregnant with my daughter and had her at. Let's see, I got pregnant at 40, had her at 41. And then after that she was fantastic, healthy, happy baby. When she was about 15 months old I was still nursing her and the company we work for that I work for CellCorp, which I know, of course you utilize a lot of their products came out with a hormone support product and I was like, hmm, okay, I don't know if I'm gonna have a second. I'm so grateful and blessed to have my daughter, but just let's see what happens. I'm gonna start this product and see what happens.

Tara :

And I never over all those years, even during the time where I had, you know, done some work to get pregnant with my daughter had really experienced like ovulatory pain, like people would say, oh, I get this pain, I want to middle schmerz, I think, is the fancy name for it I get that.

Tara :

You know, lower abdominal pain or I, you know, have these symptoms of ovulation. I'm like I've never experienced that. So three months on that product, I hit ovulation and I was never so aware of ovulating in my life and I was able to conceive my son. So he's gonna be seven months old next week and had him in March. And yeah, just, and since then, since I've learned these things. You know I'm not practicing seeing patients holistically now, but we've had so many breakthrough cases in our practice, just with, you know, utilizing the tools that I did and when I was seeing clients, I was really attracting those types of patients you know that had failed pregnancies or infertility and gosh, it was so rewarding when you were able to use your own experiences to help them to really have the greatest blessings that you know they could have. So I'm super grateful for that.

Fabiola :

Yeah, and you know it's a comprehensive approach because it's a physical aspect of things, it's the emotional aspect of things and I think with infertility there's so many emotions. Right, it's about bringing that balance back. And you know, let's go back a little bit to the thyroid, you know, because you're supporting your thyroid with what you needed, right, it doesn't necessarily mean that what you need is what I would need or vice versa. Right, Everybody's definitely different. But how do you go about establishing, when you were in practice, right, when you were seeing clients they help another women with infertility issues, with how do you go about the treminin, or how do you go about the treminin what support they needed?

Tara :

For sure. So you know we definitely utilize a couple of different tools in our practice, different assessment forms and intake forms to see you know what they've experienced in the past, what medications they're on, what things they've tried, certainly looking at their conventional blood work through a functional lens and then, if we have the opportunity to get some functional labs to look at as well, I'm always looking for what does their thyroid look like, what do their numbers look like? But beyond what the conventional labs are, right. So TSH is what most practitioners order and it'll be ordered with a reflex. So TSH reflects to T4. So the T4 is only getting checked if the TSH is off. And even so, those two numbers still aren't enough to really make an assessment. So looking at a complete thyroid panel TSH, t4, t3, or verse T3, thyroid antibody is all of these things to see the full picture on the thyroid. Another big thing that I don't think people totally understand is cholesterol, right. So we think that cholesterol is a problem or that's ingrained in us that cholesterol is bad for us. But cholesterol is a precursor for all of our hormones. So if our cholesterol is low and that's what I've seen in a lot of cases and not just the mother, the to-be mother, whose cholesterol is low, but also the husband. So we have to look at their labs too and see what's going on with them, and I've seen that a lot where cholesterol is really really low, like 150. And their primary doctor saying, well, this is great, your cholesterol is so low. But no, it's really not though, because that's a precursor to how you make your sex hormone. So I would definitely look at that. Those are two of the main things. And then liver support, because estrogen is processed through the liver. So what's going on with the liver? And how many patients do we see, don't need liver support the vast majority do in one way or another, so that we can really support and process those sex hormones properly through the liver. What's going on there? Do we need some liver support? And especially with that product I mentioned that I took Estro we definitely need to make sure we're supporting the liver in conjunction.

Tara :

And then toxic circumstances. What does their terrain look like? Where do they work? What are they exposed to? Do they have underlying mold toxicity? Is there a parasitic load? What is their chemical and metal exposure? And that can come from different ways too. How do we find that out Again their assessment, really digging into the questions about their possible exposures, their medical history, their blood work, muscle testing, functional blood work which is where we can really look at heavy metals and mold and things like that but really just taking a really good quality history because you're right, in the medical world it's okay.

Tara :

Well, here's the cookie cutter approach on how we're going to look at this. Well, we tried this, this and this and then it works. We're going to go to IVF and we're just going to skip past everything else. But in our world we really do want to find those nitty-gritty things that are pertinent to that person. What is your reason for not getting pregnant? And maybe it's none of those things. Maybe it's mental, maybe it's spiritual, maybe it's emotional. So there's just all these different things to really think about rather than and to make that person really feel like you're honing in on their specific cause and not putting them through the same protocol that you made somebody else.

Fabiola :

True, yeah, because you're right, not one size fits all in. Yeah, you mentioned some of the potential root causes that could be creating that interference within the system. And so mold exposure, right? I mean, I think mold is such a huge endocrine disruptor where it really affects thyroid function, how it affects liver parasites, the inflammatory response, so if your body is always dealing with some of those factors, it's not going to prioritize life in some cases, right, because sometimes, yeah, not everybody has the same, I guess, tolerance level. Everybody's immune system is different. Everybody's bodies are going to be different, so one story is not necessarily the next person's story. So tell us a little bit about what you saw in clinical practice. As far as the correlation between stress, adrenal function, we talked about the liver and thyroid, but if you could tell us a little bit about adrenal function and how that might be impacting, yeah, so I think, too, when you look at just the stress people are under, they can cause their cortisol levels to be off.

Tara :

So we talked about so many things to look at, but there's so many more, right? What does their sleep look like? What is that doing to their adrenal function? What does their home life look like? What is their? What stress are they under? Are they sleeping well? What kind of water are they drinking? Right? All these things that can just impact our system. But adrenal specific, that's part of the endocrine system, right.

Tara :

So we're looking at, well, what are those other stressors that could be throwing their hormones off? From a functional standpoint, we can get into saliva testing and hormone testing and checking a lot of those other things to see what the causes are. What does their work life look like? How stressful is that for them? And I mentioned home life and, coming from going through these issues over the years, that causes a lot of stress at home, right, there's a lot of stress, like in a relationship when you're trying to conceive and month after month it's not happening and it just really puts a toll on your relationship as well, which, of course, that affects your adrenal.

Tara :

So, all those pieces to think about, and, as you mentioned, endocrine disruptors when you were talking previously. What products are they using? How many things do women put on their body from the time they get in and then out of the shower that are also causing disruption in the endocrine system? Perfume and deodorants and makeup and all the hair products and these things we don't really think about that can affect the adrenals and affect the endocrine system as well. So there's just so many little things to think about to really set them up for success, not only if they're having infertility, but even if they're not and they're just in a hurry to conceive right, the body will look at the baby as an exit channel for toxins. So try to limit the load that might get passed on to the baby before you conceive too. So it's beneficial for a number of reasons.

Fabiola :

Yeah, true, and you know two important points I think to mention as well. You know your partners, your husbands. You know health as well.

Fabiola :

It is not just the woman, you know who's not getting pregnant, but you know it takes two to tango, right? So, and as well as the, yeah, the environment, right. The lifestyle definitely has a lot to do with that and and and that. Yeah, you said chemicals, right, the forever chemicals that are in everything. And even if it's a natural product, you know you really need to know and understand your labels because just something, because it's organic or natural, it doesn't necessarily mean it's free of harmful chemicals that could be potentially affecting your hormone production and everything else.

Tara :

So yeah For sure, when you look at all these things, it can feel so overwhelming. So it's like just chipping away at it, like do a little bit at a time, you know pulling, you know switching out products, switching out just those sources of toxins when you have the most control, like it, you know, when you look at it from the, you know all these things that need to happen. Like what if they live in a moldy house? Now I got to think about moving. Like what if you know I work at a place where I'm exposed to toxins, you know? So it's just, it can be really overwhelming. So just, you know, taking a step back, taking a breath and thinking, okay, well, what can I change right now that can make a difference and change those controllable things without feeling too overwhelmed in the meantime?

Fabiola :

Yes, because it's overwhelming. You know, like from one day to the other and depending on your yeah, how fast you want to make those switches. So not everyone wants to or can, just from one day to the other, you know go full organic or 100% chemical, harmful chemical, free because you know life factors. But yeah, when I work with women who are trying to get pregnant, I do ask them not to try to get pregnant. It's the hardest thing to ask someone who it's really been working on fertility.

Fabiola :

You know, and I'm like, I know you're really trying to, but I'm going to ask you not to. Let's try not to do this at least for, you know, three months. If it happens, yay, you know, we'll switch gears. But one of the reasons I do that is because let's really detox your body, let's really bring balance to hormones, cholesterol levels, let's run all this different tests, let's gather all this information so that we have a plan of attack right, just like any sports game has a good coach that is going to tell you what's the play and that's what, and sometimes it happens, and if it happens again we switch gears.

Fabiola :

But if it doesn't, then at least we'll build in that foundation. So when that does happen, then we have the ability to hold that pregnancy right, because you've done all that hard work and how important it is to then hold that pregnancy and be able to have a healthy pregnancy. Do they have a healthy baby? So could you share a little bit about because you've had your two miracles right. And so what's the other side look like now for you as far as like, yeah, racing your babies, oh my goodness.

Tara :

Well, it's always nice to sit back, especially at the ages. They are almost three and seven months old and everyone will ask me how's things going? I'm like, oh, I'm just managing the chaos over here because it's beautiful chaos, but it is chaos, and I love taking these moments to sit back and kind of reflect on what it took to get to where I am, which makes me want to tear up a little bit, right, because you get so caught in the everyday, like when you're raising these littles and it's a lot. Right now I'm not sleeping great because of my little guy, and I find myself getting a little frustrated from time to time. And then I have to take back and okay, like gosh, I waited so long to have this. I prayed to have the chaos, I prayed to have these messes and toys everywhere, right. So it's just gosh taking that step back. But you know, I do feel blessed in the sense that it took me as long as it did to get pregnant, because if I had my kids in my 20s, I would have been raising them completely different than I am now.

Tara :

You know, I've learned so much over the years, gosh. I mean the way I feed them. You know they, they, my little guys just starting to eat, but they're both, you know, 100% breastfed. My daughter only wanted to breastfeed. My son pretty much only wants a bottle. So that's been a journey. But you know the importance of of that and my son. I actually had it home in March so I was able to do that, which was such a blessing, and then just limit the things that they're exposed to. That I didn't understand, you know, or my parents didn't understand, when I was younger. You know again, the food what are they being fed? You know where is that coming from? What toxins could they be exposed to there? From a medical perspective, they are and I'm a PA 100% vaccine free, had absolutely nothing vitamin K I went and none of that. And they are two of the happiest, healthiest kids that I know. You know. You know. You look at the kids around you that are that are. You know the things they have going on and you know all people message me oh, my nephew's having his tonsils and his adenoids out today and I'm like like kind of know why that is. But let me just keep my mouth shut because you're not open to hearing that conversation, right? So I'm just so blessed to.

Tara :

You know, have the resources I have, both as a practitioner and also as a working with self or just meeting so many great practitioners just like yourself, to have. You know, not only these practitioners to support but references, to say you know, okay, what's homeopathy? What can I keep at home? You know I have a whole cabinet of things that just in preparation in case they, you know, fall ill. Okay, well, if I'm not going to use Tylenol, what am I going to use instead? You know, just thinking about all these things, what they eat, what do you keep at home when they're feeling ill? Keeping the screens turned off, getting them outside as much as possible? Like all these things that I've really come to a realization of over the years, and although I would love to have been younger, having my kids, I'm grateful for having them at 41 and 43, to have the knowledge that I have now and the ability to support them in a way that's holistic and minimize their toxic burden because of what I've learned over the years.

Fabiola :

For sure, and you are their advocate, right. I think it's so, so awesome to be having that self-determinism on how you want your kids to be raised, and obviously everybody takes makes different choices according to what they think is right or whatever right. No judgment, but to also have that freedom, whichever way to. Exactly To just do whatever you feel is right for them.

Tara :

Yeah, I mean, you do the best you can with the knowledge you have in that moment. And you know, like I said years ago, my decisions would have been completely different because my knowledge and my understanding would have been different at that time and I just had to have that willingness to just kind of look at things a different way. And it is they just what you do, what it's amazing to see, like how you ingrain that in them, right? So just last night we were at the playground my daughter, my I took my daughter to see my, or the kids, see my nieces and my nephew and my sister-in-law, you know, brings she's. She's not, she's trying, she's trying to do some healthier snacks, but you know, not the most healthy. And she shows up with a bag of snacks and there's, there was meat sticks in there. So I was proud of that.

Tara :

My nieces both chose that, so that was great. And then she had these like fruit strips in there and you know, not the best ingredients. But I don't also want to, you know, be in a situation like that and tell Vienna like no, you can't have it. Like 95% of the time she's eating clean. So okay, well, I'm not going to make a scene in front of your cousins that you can't eat that, and oftentimes she'll make the decision that she doesn't want it. So she opened it and it was you know, she's not a kid that likes fruit snacks, even like healthier ones and she took a bite of it and I just let her do it and mommy, I don't want this. So she gave it back to me.

Tara :

So and that's because she's not exposed to these things at home. So I kind of just let her feel her own way when we go out somewhere and you know, see what she likes and she doesn't like. And then she wanted to be a doctor for Halloween. So she's got her little scrub set and her glasses and her little you know OR cap that came with this little kit and it came with like a little like medicine syringe in there. So she'll pretend she's playing doctor and she gives mommy and her dolls their supplements. So it's so cute to hear her you know the way she talks about it, because that's what she's exposed to and that's what she's used to. So yeah, a lot of it. You know you can protect so much of it in your home and then you know guide outside the home and let them kind of apply what they've learned, just like we did with what we learned. Right, it's just, you know, you're just changing, changing the paradigm a little bit that way.

Fabiola :

Yeah, and I think now times are so different. You know, I think the times that I, you know, being also in my 40s, grew up so differently and now times are so different and I think it's it takes a village, you know, when they do say that, saying it takes a village to raise a kid it's no joke, it's definitely true. And you write people are trying and you yes.

Fabiola :

A lot of it physical, mentally, spiritual. You know the whole, the whole nine yard. Yes, that's awesome. Well, I know you guys, I know your practice and your whole team. You know of a lot of amazing miracles and things that you guys are creating and so can you tell us? I mean, I'm hoping that a lot of people will be listening or to this episode and feel inspired to be doing something, or know someone who might be inspired about the work that you guys are doing and potentially become clients. Do you guys work with only in-person clients or you do a virtual?

Tara :

as well. No, we see virtual as well. Yeah, we see virtual clients as well and yeah, so we have. Let's see where we at now. I think about five practitioners. Now we have Dr Joe, who's our DO as well, so he's just seeing in person, but some of our practitioners do work virtually, Maria and Jimmy being two of them.

Tara :

Maria actually just posted the other day in War of my Heart. She posted on her Instagram stories kind of a reel about a text that she had just gotten that a client was suffering with infertility and just had gotten pregnant working with her. So just amazing to hear those stories and, as the woman who's going through this, just sitting tight, being your best advocate, really just kind of just listening to your intuition on things. When you go see a specialist, whether it's us, whether it's holistic, whether it's Western medicine, just going in there with questions to ask, just knowing that we work for you, Like we, whether it's Western medicine, Eastern medicine, like that, they work for you.

Tara :

So you should feel really comfortable in those situations to ask questions, to have an understanding of what's going on, to do your own research I think that's so huge and just be your biggest advocate, whether it's for yourself, as you're trying to conceive or once you do have children, being that advocate for your kids. It's just super important. So always asking questions, no matter who the practitioner is, and being the most comfortable in those situations with the choices and the decisions that are being made.

Fabiola :

Yeah, that's important because, you know, I think now, I think now there's a bigger movement about especially for women to really understand their bodies, their hormones, how things work. I mean, there's amazing doctors, you know, like Dr Mindy Pells. You know she's written so many different books and teaching women about intermittent fasting and weight loss. And then you have Dr Jolene Brighton who's written Beyond the Pale and she's got is this normal, you know? And it is striking sometimes working with women who you were talking about ovulation, and it made me think of this client who she didn't even know what ovulation was, and I'm like, well, you're tracking ovulation. And she's like, oh, what is that and how would I know that I'm ovulated or not? And I was like, okay, so that just it rose, it raised my awareness as far as like, okay, there's more education to be done because, unfortunately, the way our medical system is set up right now, you go to the doctor, you ask him about hormones and they're like, oh, it's normal.

Fabiola :

You know, like you're going through menopause or, you know, yes, heavy periods. You know take this, you know, birth control and blah, blah, blah, and it's people do it, you know, because they want to feel better. But I love what you said about being your own advocate and asking those questions, and that's something Dr Jolene Brighton talks about. It's like women don't actually feel comfortable talking to the doctors about their bodies and that's what so many women out there don't really know what is going on or how, what they could do to handle what it's going on. So thank you for bringing that up.

Fabiola :

Yeah yeah, important, and we'll make sure to add your guys's contact information so that anyone who is listening to this check you guys out, because I know like I said, your practice is amazing and thank you. You have so many cool gadgets over there infrared sauna and you know, like you just did, the hyperbaric oxygen chambers.

Tara :

My husband went and slept at the other night. He had an ankle injury so he was over there. He went over at 11 o'clock at night and slept in the chamber, so he was feeling better the next morning.

Fabiola :

Yeah, yeah, super charged. Yeah, that's so awesome. Are there any last words of wisdom that you would want to leave our listeners with?

Tara :

Yeah, yeah, just you know. Again, it's easy for me now on the other side to just say, you know, let it be, let it rest. But that's one of the biggest things that was my savior was okay, it's going to happen when it's supposed to happen. Let me give it up to something bigger and in the meantime, let me do the work that's necessary to be the ideal facility to be to what I'm looking for, to be that temple for getting pregnant. Right, let me just work on that and then, if it happens, if it doesn't happen, great, I'm on my way. I'm on my way to living my best healthy life.

Tara :

And if it does happen, then you know I'm a prime, you know mom to carry a baby. So you know, just work on yourself, let it go as best you can. Lean on those that support you, be your best advocate. If you go into a situation where you're getting some pushback on the questions you're asking, then that's simply not the provider for you. Always be supported in any questions that you're asking and just know that there are practitioners out there like yourself, like our practice, that are just ready and willing to help you reach those and attain those goals and those blessings of conceiving and then having your children.

Fabiola :

Awesome, all right, well, thank you so much, tara, for sharing your journey with us and with nothing else. Will be signing out. Thank you everybody for listening.

Tara :

Thanks for having me.

Fabiola :

Yeah, bye now, bye, bye.