Decoding Lyme Disease: Unraveling Its Hidden Facets with Dr. Randy Michaux

Having witnessed chronic illnesses' debilitating effects, I asked myself, 'Could there be a common root cause that we're overlooking?' This curiosity paved the way for our enthralling conversation with Dr. Randy Michaux, National Board Certified Chiropractic Physician, Holistic Health Coach, Neuroencoder Specialist, Holistic Health Coach, and licensed with the Pastoral Medical Association, who enlightens us on Lyme disease and its notorious co-infections - Babesia, Bartonella and much more.

Dr. Randy unravels this intricate web of disease that often masquerades as other chronic conditions. He illustrates this with personal experiences that are as enlightening as they are heart-wrenching, like his father's encounter with cancer and his son's battle with Lyme disease. We also tackle the role of parasites in Lyme disease, the impact of mold on health, and the often overlooked emotional aspect of Lyme disease. The need for extensive testing, the importance of getting to the root of health issues, and the pitfalls of focusing solely on symptom care are vital points you can't afford to miss.

As we follow this journey through Lyme disease and its co-infections, we discuss the dangers of mold in our environment, highlighting how mycotoxin damage can affect our bodies. Dr. Randy guides us through the healing process, emphasizing the necessity of eliminating mold from our surroundings. He reassures listeners about the fear and uncertainty that often accompany this process, offering advice that resonates with the spirit of taking one step at a time. Our conversation underscores the importance of rest, a supportive environment, and a patient approach to recovery from chronic illnesses. Join us, and let's redefine the Lyme disease and chronic illness narrative.

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Fabiola : 0:03

Welcome back everyone to the root cause solutions for you podcast. My name is Fabiola and I am your host. Today. I have a very special guest with us, dr Randy Michaud. He is a doctor of chiropractic. He is also a holistic health coach. He is a neuroencoder specialist. He's a husband, a father of five, and he loves pushing things to the envelope. He loves pushing himself to do hard things. He also enjoys backpacking, endurance races and having real conversations with people. Today, we're going to be talking about Lyme disease and its co-infections and how this can be the root cause of chronic illness, so we hope that you enjoy this interview. Dr Randy, thank you so much for being here with us today.

Dr. Randy : 0:52

Yeah, thank you for having me. This is great.

Fabiola : 0:56

If you could, please introduce yourself, let us know your background, what led you to be on this path about helping people, finding out the root cause of their ailments, and then we'll start from there.

Dr. Randy : 1:11

Sure, thank you. So by training I'm a chiropractor and so I've always had an interest in health. I had some really cool experiences of how chiropractic became the thing that I wanted to do, and then about it was 2014,. So nine years ago, my things were going well and then my dad was diagnosed with cancer. And he was diagnosed. He got the diagnosis July 14th. He died September 30th and I knew he was sick long before that.

Dr. Randy : 1:50

But it wasn't really until that experience happened that I realized, man, there's a lot of stuff you don't know, yeah, that I needed, that.

Dr. Randy : 2:01

I felt like I needed to learn that was important and some things leading up to his death, our relationship wasn't great and so I had started learning some other things emotion code, body code that really helped me.

Dr. Randy : 2:15

But it wasn't until probably six months later that, after he died, it was like, you know, you really need to take a hard look at nutrition, at root cause and I didn't even use the term root cause at the time but just what are the underlying causes that would cause cancer, that would cause these other conditions to happen?

Dr. Randy : 2:34

Because I saw it in my own patients as well that things they weren't getting better from, no matter how much I was going to adjust them. They weren't improving with things and that led me down a path that has now got me moved me from Virginia to Boise, idaho, to working with Dr Todd Watts and then, you know, kind of handing over the clinic, and so it's really been a challenging but beautiful change and there's so much that I've embraced and learned and come to realize. And getting to the root is so essential because for so many they're still stuck in symptom care and they think that treating symptoms is the way to go, when it's so much deeper than that and there's so many things underlying to what they feel or what you know their doctor tells them and it takes some time to figure those things out and define them. But there's a root cause to every disease and I think that's really what we need to be searching for.

Fabiola : 3:43

Yeah, no, I agree.

Fabiola : 3:44

I think we other, as patients, clients ourselves who've been ill or not well, or a family member, you're right we get caught up on symptomology and then we just go from medication to medication, from supplement to supplement, from one specialist to another, and then, unfortunately, a lot of people out there without any real solutions, which I think people are hungry for solutions nowadays.

Fabiola : 4:13

I think, especially since COVID, there's been a real hunger for I really want to get to, I want to be better, you know, want to get, I want to be healthier, have a half stronger immune system. And I think you're right, getting to the root cause is so important. Well, thank you so much for sharing that with us. Let's talk about Lyme disease, and I mean, I think it's a, it's a, it's a subject that by now, hopefully, a lot of people are, you know, aware of, and I think it has been a lot of work by many professions chiropractors, functional medicine, even different foundations that are trying to raise awareness and really trying to change the way Lyme disease is viewed in the medical field, because it hasn't always been acknowledged at something as a disease right.

Fabiola : 5:05

And it hasn't always been the easiest thing for for people to really understand how one can have Lyme disease, the different coinfections that are involved within Lyme disease and how one could go about recovering from it and trying to potentially avoid recurrences of it. So tell us a little bit about that and what what your experience with Lyme disease has been throughout your career.

Dr. Randy : 5:32

Yeah, so. So something that really helped me was my own family right. I've never really suffered from Lyme disease like many others have. The and I'll get into that like what it is and the coinfections I remember after we moved from Virginia to here in Virginia is like Lyme. Central right when I lived, there's so much Lyme disease and I'd hear about it from patients. But I'm like, okay, you have Lyme, you have a doctor that's helping you. Great.

Dr. Randy : 6:03

Didn't really know much until moved to Idaho and pretty traumatic for my family, just uprooting what, everything they knew. And within about three months, four months, my, my, my now 15 year old, started to say dad, like I'm just really tired and he's outdoor kid, loves baseball, loves sports, but he's like I'm just so tired and like you just need to go to bed sooner, right, and then he starts talking about joint pain. Like man, I can't move my elbow, it really hurts, and my chiropractic cats on like, oh well, we need to adjust you and we need to like, do some muscle work. And he's like it's not helping. And I was kind of in denial, honestly, that how could my kid have Lyme? Not even thinking that. Oh yeah, we fell in a dent of ticks in Virginia or a bed of ticks and whatever. We pulled like 50 ticks off them. But I'm like, not my kid, right, the doctor, he shouldn't have that. So I literally was in denial about that. And then finally it got to the point where it's like, no, there's something way deeper going on here. And just to give it an idea, so he was a catcher in baseball, right, there's a lot of throwing, a lot of that involved, and at the time he's 15 now. So this was like four years ago, he's 11, 12. But he couldn't even move his elbow. Like he had to physically like grab his arm and move his elbow so he could straighten it. And that was just like. He described it as glass in his elbow, Like it felt, like it was that intense and it was in his shoulder too. And so at the time it was like, oh, we got to do some more stuff. So we started testing, muscle testing, Fair enough.

Dr. Randy : 7:50

Lyme disease, Bartenoa Abesia, all positive. What do I do now? And so that there's no teacher, like your own family, right, when you got to work on your own family, it becomes very real and personal and you want to figure out what it is. So then, to go back Lyme disease. What is it? Many people refer to Lyme and the co-infections as the same thing, but they're different. Lyme disease in and of itself is a bacteria, Borrelia burgdorferi, named after I forgot his first name, but Burgdorf.

Fabiola : 8:30

I think that was his last name. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

Dr. Randy : 8:32

It's a bacteria, right, it's a spirochete. And then the co-infections with Lyme are Bartonella, which is another bacteria, more of like an intracellular bacteria, and then Babesia. Babesia is a parasite, it's a protozoa that gets into the red blood cells, and there are other things like Elisha Mycoplasma, which you can get, these other co-infections. But those are the main three that I've dealt with Borrelia, babesia and Bartonella and they each have different symptomology to them and they each do like different damage to the body. And so, going back to the story of my son, right, he's got all this pain in his elbow and his shoulder and then the massive fatigue. And so Borrelia will get into the joints. Right, it's causing inflammation as it's replicating, it's causing inflammation and it moves. It doesn't always just stay in the same joint, but it can move from joint to joint, elbow to elbow, shoulder to hip to knee, and so anytime people experience migratory joint pain, it's likely plausible that, hey, there's a line there, fatigue can set in because of the massive inflammation that it causes, and often it's caused. The great mimicker right, like mimics everything, it mimics chronic fatigue, it mimics fibromyalgia. Again, these are diagnoses. That. What do they mean? It means, well, I'm tired all the time, or I have pain all the time. It's not really a great diagnosis, but it's what people are given and oftentimes it can be lying. Because of how that drives pain, inflammation, stagnation in the lymph. It impacts our liver and drainage pathways so we can't clear toxin anymore.

Dr. Randy : 10:29

So then the other two Babesia, again, is a protozoa. This one's really fascinating to me because it impacts the way that our body uses oxygen. It gets into the red blood cells and damages our hemoglobin, which is what carries oxygen. And if we can't carry oxygen, then we have massive fatigue and we may not know why. Right Like my son, waking up in the morning was tortured. He's like, no matter how much sleep he got, he was exhausted in the morning and he developed these dark circles under his eyes just dragging to get through the day. And it's like, dude, you're 11 years old, what's wrong? And until we recognized what it was, then we started to make changes.

Dr. Randy : 11:17

And then Bartonella is the bacteria and what I've seen a lot with that is significant leg pain, knee pain, burning. That one really messes with the brain. It seems to cause a lot of like OCD not yourself, anxiety, depression, like a whole mix of stuff going on in the brain. So that's kind of like an overview of the three and kind of how it impacted my son and maybe as we talk more we can talk about what we did for him and what we do for others. But that just kind of age doesn't matter, right, he was 11. I've got patients that are in their 30s, 40s, 50s. It can also get into our nervous system and that's where it really wreaks havoc, because then it seems like nothing's working, like why am I not well with? I'm trying all this stuff, I'm doing all these things, but yet there's still massive pain and inflammation, and just not myself.

Fabiola : 12:26

Thank you for sharing that with us.

Fabiola : 12:27

It's, you know, you used a very, you know, key concept here and I think it's mimicking, right, yes, and, like you said, a lot of people they go to the doctor, they tell them, then, symptoms, and then because we, they don't know exactly what they might be dealing with or are not thinking with all the tools in their box.

Fabiola : 12:49

Then they're just, oh, here you have fibromyalgia, like you mentioned, or you have this and that, and then it's just that. Then it goes unnoticed, right, and it goes on diagnosed and it goes just, yeah, then you leave the doctor with potentially more medications that you could or want to be taken or should be taken, but you're still not feeling well and you're not getting to that root cause. And then the neurological effect, right, that Lyme and Co-infections can definitely have, specifically with OCD, because a lot of people, unfortunately, right, may be impacted or feel have been diagnosed, given a diagnosis or self-diagnosis of OCD or ADHD or how that impacts, and, I think, the impact on kids specifically. I was interviewing another practitioner and she was talking about, like this, growing pains. You know what is?

Dr. Randy : 13:48

yes, you know your body is growing.

Fabiola : 13:49

But what is exactly a growing pain? How do we know that it's not being that kid's body is not being affected by some sort of pathogen that is just aggravating and creating more inflammation in their system. So that's very interesting, that the great mimiker I think they called that right yeah.

Dr. Randy : 14:13

And you know, one of the challenges with it is often that people go to the doctor and they maybe the person, not the doctor, maybe the patient suspects Lyme and the first question is well, did you have a rash? Yeah, Did you have a bullseye rash? No, I don't recall seeing that. Oh, then you don't have Lyme disease? Yeah, and that's not the case, right, because the Borrelia erythromigrans, which is the bullseye rash, sometimes that appears, but it doesn't have to. If it's enveloped in something else, then you're not going to get that response. Or if it's on your head, right, how are you going to see it? Or if it's somewhere else in your body that you may not even notice, like your back, how many people look at their back? Some do, Right, and Lyme is something that it doesn't have to be acute, and I think that many doctors are looking for the acute thing. Well, there was no bullseye rash. There's no such thing as chronic Lyme. Your body dealt with it, so it's not that.

Dr. Randy : 15:22

And then it goes misdiagnosed. Or if they run a test Western Blot or Lysa, which are highly inaccurate you got a lot of false negatives with those. Then someone goes sometimes the next 10, 20 years undiagnosed because they ruled that out, yeah, Quote unquote. And so they kind of cast it aside and they don't look for it until it comes up again in another practitioner or someone that understands Lyme is like you know, we need to do some more diving into this and do some more extensive blood work or labs that are way more specific than the traditional, and really find out is this an underlying condition? And there are labs that show that. I don't think there's any one lab that's 100% accurate, but there are some that are pretty close. Yeah, so, and that's the dangerous line, though, is that it can go undiagnosed, and then people just go through the mental hoops of what's my problem? Why? Why do I have these problems when they've been told it's not Lyme, but they don't know what it is?

Fabiola : 16:29

Yeah, no, true. And you bring a very interesting point testing, you know, I think. Because if it's, if Lyme disease is still something that has not been 100% acknowledged as something that it is real, something that it is happening to people and not a lot of people are well educated or versed on the science and what to look for, then the testing obviously is not going to be as accurate or it's going to be faulty. And yeah, I mean I work with Viver in America, which I find our tick 2.0 test is it's, it's super, it helps you so much, right, because you're not only at the potential right now?

Fabiola : 17:15

is there an active infection or is this a recurrence of a past infection? Or is your system just recognizing that at some point there was something there? And I was having a conference, a clinical conversation, with reviewing labs from from a client last week and we were just sort of kind of joking around on more like it's almost like the CDC doesn't want to. You know, like their, their parameters, parameters on what, how someone should be diagnosed or given a diagnosis of Lyme. There's so many things that have to be in check and numbers and for it to for a lab to say, okay, yes, you do have Lyme, and I'm like, wait, but how, how long ago were those different numbers, you know, stipulated by the CDC? When did they say that? That? And she's like, oh, a long time ago. So it's just very interesting, we're not caught up with with the times and I think the epidemic of Lyme diseases happening right now and we need to come up with, you know, with the testing needs, to catch up with what is going on with with people.

Dr. Randy : 18:18

We do and I agree I really love the vibrant 2.0 test, that tick born 2.0.

Dr. Randy : 18:24

And it's something else that interesting is you know, some will say well, lyme is not in every state, or it's not, you know, it's not here, it's not what it is, it's ever. Lyme is everywhere. They found evidence of Lyme disease in every single state. I can't say it throughout the world, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that it's prevalent in most places. I won't say all, but they found evidence of Lyme in every single state.

Dr. Randy : 18:51

And then there's so much travel, right, who's to say, just because you live in a certain place, that, oh, you can't have it because Lyme doesn't exist in that place? Well, maybe I traveled somewhere that was Lyme. Is that possible? I mean, yeah, and so place geography I would really like cast that aside for looking at diagnosis. And I think that Lyme is a very, very important place for Lyme disease as well. Because of those factors and it's something else I think that there is more light on Lyme right now, maybe because of celebrities quote unquote that have had Lyme and that have had serious battles with it, and it's like, oh, that person had Lyme and that person had Lyme. There is more light on it, but there definitely needs to be more, because it is a big deal.

Fabiola : 19:44

Yeah, no, I agreed and I think so. Takes are not the only way in which one could have Lyme right. So what are some of the other ways in which we could potentially have Lyme?

Dr. Randy : 19:58

Yeah. So it takes you to the most common and it does not have to be just a deer tick, right. Any blood-borne vector of transmission, so spider, even like bed bugs, mosquitoes, right, anything that's transmitting blood can transmit Lyme. And so you're like you know, I got bit by three or four mosquitoes last night just walking from the park back to my house, and you know, could it be that easy? Well, yeah, it could.

Dr. Randy : 20:28

I remember I do a lot of running and there was in Virginia. It was always in the woods, right, it was like my zen place, but I can't tell you the amount of spider webs I ran through not seeing them. I'm a first person out in the morning, I'm tall, and so you know, you get like spider web all in your face. And there were a couple of times when I came back over probably a five-year period where it was like I was bit by something. Where is it? And then a couple of days later I see this massive like rash or not rash, but like a big old you know thing on my leg. I'm like dude. Okay, let's start doing some work on that Again. Fortunately I've never had Lyme like others.

Dr. Randy : 21:09

But this vector of transmission can be multiple and I think something really important to share is it can pass in utero. This can go from mother to fetus through the bloodstream and this isn't meant to scare people, but that's important to know that if you're infant, your toddler is showing signs of like. Why aren't they thriving Like? Why aren't they growing? Why are they not? You know they're talking about it hurts or they're crying. There's so many reasons for that, but if there is a history of Lyme disease in the family or in the mother, then I don't want to say that it's 100%, but it's likely. It's probable that your son or daughter has has Lyme and the other co-infections, because it does pass in utero.

Fabiola : 22:07

Yeah, Just things to be aware of, things to indicate symptoms, to be in the locale for and that's very interesting that it is true. Would you? What about, like you know? So let's say, someone has had Lyme and they did. You know the most common practice is antibiotics and we know that. You know it's as well as well. Research now, and I think a lot of people are aware that one, the antibiotics, you know, while they have their place, sometimes they can be at life and death situation. Right, they have, they definitely have their place. They also create a lot of GI issues, right, Like gastrointestinal issues.

Fabiola : 22:52

And unfortunately, one batch of antibiotics can unfortunately set someone back seven years. Right, you could take you seven years to recover from from from antibiotic use, and I think I think now and nowadays, people are given less amount of time to be taken to antibiotics, but I think in the past some people used to have several, have to do several courses of it or longer periods of time. Again, I think we're just becoming more aware as to the use of antibiotics when it comes to Lyme, but one of the things that I think it's it's fair to talk about is that the, while the antibiotics might be going after the, the bacteria, they're not going after another potential contributor. It's it's. The symptoms are still there, the disease is still there, the chronic illness which is parasites, and so it was wondering if you could share your opinion about the role of parasites in the in Lyme disease and co-infections.

Dr. Randy : 23:55

Absolutely, and before before I do that, right, there's Lyme also produces biofilm, and for those people that don't know what biofilm is, it's like an invisible force field, right, and it protects the bacteria so that our immune system, antibiotics, other things, don't readily get into those biofilms and yet the bacteria can still let things out, right. So it's kind of it's an unlevel playing field, right, where we can't affect it in the biofield and then biofilm, but it can still impact us and that can be throughout the body, and so antibiotics don't touch biofilms, and that's an important thing to note that there are other things that they can. But going to the parasites, right, I find that and maybe I'll bring up two things here parasites and mold are massive impact for Lyme, because you could have Lyme, you could have no symptoms at all of Lyme disease, and then you, you know, get into a moldy house and, sorry, maybe jumping ahead, but you go into mold or you have a traumatic experience and now, all of a sudden, why do I have all these symptoms? What's going on? And it was the trauma or the mold exposure or exposure to some toxic chemical that weakened your immune system. And now these, these critters come out and like, hey, we can play, we can do our thing. So that's really important to know. Parasites play a huge role in this, because, I mean, the parasites are commensal with us, right, so are bacteria, so are viruses, so are fungi, because when they get out of control I think because of toxin and inflammation, so you have Lyme going on that's creating this massive inflammation. Parasites are garbage cans. Essentially, they eat trash in the body, but they can get completely out of control and they can take over and infest not only the gut but our lungs, our organs, our muscles, and they themselves become a huge problem, because it's not just the parasite, it's also their waste products, right, they're eliminating into our body, which is kind of nasty to think about, that we have something like pooping in us, but it's true, and the things that they excrete are probably more toxic than the parasite itself. The parasite itself is going to strip us of nutrients, right. In many cases it's going to consume what we're eating to some part, so that we have nutrient deficiency, which now means our immune system, our immune function, is not as great, our GI system is not as optimal functioning, so it's really easy. It becomes like a breeding ground for other pathogens, and parasites are something that people are like I will share me.

Dr. Randy : 26:52

When I first met Dr Watts and he was talking about parasites, I'm like I've never been out of the country, I don't have parasites, yeah. And he's like, well, I can check. I'm like what do you mean? You can check? What are you going to do? And he's like, well, let me see your pulse. I'm like, okay, are you some kind of like a mystical dude that you feel something in my pulse? He checks my pulse. He's like you have parasites. I'm like what are you talking about? You're alive. He's like you have parasites.

Dr. Randy : 27:19

Everyone living has parasites. How are you impacted by them? And I'm like, oh, that's a different question. Okay, so I began to kind of believe that. And then seeing is believing for me, with parasites Cause I'm like I was still kind of brilliant, but then when I started taking some different products for it, it was like, okay, they're there.

Dr. Randy : 27:38

But again, going back to your question, parasites are, I think so detrimental to us because of what they do to our body, the inflammatory condition they cause throughout Again, not just the gut, but our lungs, our pancreas, our liver, our kidneys and they impact our ability to drain and to clear toxicity such that our bucket becomes full, it overflows and now our body is having a really hard time healing. And so now we have multiple layers of toxicity, pathogenesis going on, and we wonder what the heck is wrong with me. I have all these symptoms. The doctor says you're like we have no idea how to help you. You're on five, 10, 15 medications and nothing's working. Yeah, Root cause, right, parasites, lyme, bold, emotion, toxins I mean those are all the root cause, the heart of disease process and inflammation.

Fabiola : 28:42

It's true, I was reading Dr J Davidson's book. I can't quite remember the title, but I'll include it in the show notes so people can refer to it. But I love that book. It was so, so easy to understand Such a great manual.

Fabiola : 28:58

If you are someone who's new to wanting to understand how Lyme disease could be impacting you, how important it is to make sure that you're eliminating going to the bathroom every day, not feeling puffy, sleeping right. And then the parasites and how the role that plays on chronic illness, and I was like, wow, so now almost every it's part of my homework. Every client that I see, I'm like, okay, this book, you have to get this book, get the audio book, you're gonna end up getting a hard copy of it. And it just brought so much awareness, not only as a practitioner but also as an amazing tool to be educating others, cause it's hard, you know I sometimes people don't wanna hear about.

Fabiola : 29:44

They've been working on their health so much, especially someone who's been chronically ill. They've been spending money and time, but they've been seeing so many other practitioners, doctors, been bounced from one place to the other and they might not be willing to yet another person who may say, hey, I am gonna help you. So I think education is such a big part of people understanding why they're doing. Why are they taking a supplement? Why are they working on emotions? Why are they working on lifestyle changes and how themselves? You know, you see them change, you see their household change and it's just. It can also sometimes be a magical transformation when people, you put them on the correct support, you put them on the correct lifestyles, and then they're like oh wow, I am feeling better.

Dr. Randy : 30:35

So you know, what I find is and you kind of alluded to this is that people want to be heard, they wanna be understood, right? They don't wanna just be thrown a. Take this, take that I find that the heart is missing in a lot of, not the patient's heart, but the doctor's heart is missing a lot in terms of treatment, because there's so much. I mean, take someone that's been chronically ill for a year, let alone 30 years, right, and what has that done to them from an emotional standpoint, and how do they feel about themselves? They used to be thriving, they used to be like. You know, I can go outdoors.

Fabiola : 31:19

I can do this.

Dr. Randy : 31:20

I can take my, you know, I can go to the grocery store and now for some it's like I can't even like already get out of bed and get to my front door. Yeah, and acknowledging that, validating that, giving space for that and not being so quick to judge or to put a protocol on someone and say, here, you need to do this, because there becomes almost a distrust of, not because of the individual but because, man, I've been to like 20, 30 people and I'm told the same thing every time. So I think that component of it is so needed and it's often missing. Yeah, and then you alluded to this as well that you often can't just go straight after the Lyme disease, right, like people want to thrust antibiotics on it. Or even if it's herbal, right, even if they're herbal and they're killers, meaning killing bacteria, pathogens.

Dr. Randy : 32:23

What if somebody's not prepared for that? Yeah, and I find that treatment. I'll liken it to this if you're in a dark room, right, your eyes have been closed, blinded, shielded, whatever, and then somebody throws the curtains back and it's like one o'clock in the afternoon, full sun. You're not gonna be like, oh, this is amazing. It's gonna be like, oh, man, that hurts my eyes.

Fabiola : 32:48

Yeah.

Dr. Randy : 32:49

That's kind of like the standard of care for Lyme and other things. It's just let's kill it. Yeah, it's not the way to go. We've gotta prepare the body, and preparing the body is going back and opening up these pathways so they can actually drain via the lymphatic system, via the liver, getting them pooping. I can't tell you how many people I've had that. I'll ask the question do you have a bowel movement regularly?

Fabiola : 33:17

They're like oh yeah, I'm like okay, what does that?

Dr. Randy : 33:19

mean, right, oh well, I go like every other day. I'm like, okay, so that's consistent, but that's not optimal and you're not eliminating. Well, there's a lot of toxicity built up and if you're trying to kill a pathogen which is thinking to create more inflammation and you're not eliminating this stuff again, it just accumulates even more. So now, in many cases, people already feel cruddy. Now they're trying to kill something in their body and now they feel worse. Yeah, right, and I'm sure I mean I've seen that, I've had patients with that.

Dr. Randy : 33:59

I've been the recipient of that with my son tried to do too much, too fast and he's like I feel way worse, like what am I supposed to do now? And it's like, okay, let's back up. What are we not addressing and do we need to help drainage? Do we need to help support the liver, the kidneys, the lymphatic system more? Do we need to bind more, to use the right binders to grab up all this garbage? Yeah, but ultimately I think it's how are we draining? How are we eliminating? Is there congestion in the lymph and can we identify that and help that before we try to go in with napalm and kill?

Fabiola : 34:40

everything. Yeah, yeah, no, true, yeah. And you know I feel like Listening to people, right, meeting them with their where they're at, it's important. And If you've ever been told no, this is it's all in your head, you know it's hormones or it's yeah, your kid is just growing, or you know it's yeah. Just Don't settle for that, because you are your best advocate. If you're not feeling well, say something you know like really do Go and look for for the solutions. I had a client in tears literally the other day who, who said I can't believe. You believe what I'm going through.

Dr. Randy : 35:30

Right. Isn't that crazy that they're like like you might be the first one. I meant be the first one. I've had that so many times where what you believe me. Yeah yeah, why wouldn't I? It's your experience, like I have nothing to judge that against. Yeah, and just in shock that I mean. That sometimes shocks me, like why wouldn't someone believe what you're saying?

Fabiola : 35:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah no it's yeah.

Fabiola : 35:53

So if you're listening to this and you like this speaks to you, please look for answers, because you know they're. They're out there and so you touch on. Something very specific that I like to talk about is mold. You know you talked about it a little bit, but I think a lot of us Unknowingly our mold toxic and that's that was my experience. I never knew that I had mold. I'm not. I have never been chronically ill. I've had my issues way less. You know I'll wait, less resistance hormones. You know like I guess your typical stuff right and but I never knew, like why my way will yo-yo all the time, or what I have a hard time losing weight, or why Sometimes I'm not irritated but sometimes I am, or you know whatever.

Fabiola : 36:41

In the night three years ago Was at a lecture in Orlando by dr Jessica Pietros and all she talked about was mold and she was you know the three lectures that she did I was like, and she's not such an amazing doctor and she was just so passionate about everything that she was talking. I was like that's me, check, check, check, check. So I come home and I'm like to my practitioner hey, you gotta check me for mold because honestly, I Think we're onto something. And I grew up in Mexico City and you know, was born in recent makes it Mexico City. So we talked about parasites, right, how, like you know, third-world country kind of problem, right, or or something you know that misconception. And I'm like, and I never had parasites, like Not never. Parasites were never an issue for me. I'm like, yeah, right, I mean I used to eat and stands on the corner of the street, I bet you know I they're just having shown up. So I did a mold protocol, super intense, and I'm a little like over the board where I'm like just give it to me, don't sugarcoat it, I'm just gonna go hardcore and I did three weeks of hell.

Fabiola : 37:51

So I don't recommend it for everyone. You know, everyone is different. Definitely, make sure you follow your practitioners recommendations, make sure your body is ready. But and it was literally like I could taste plastic in my mouth, I could get like whiffs of chlorine even if I wasn't near chlorine, and I had this body order for 10, 15 years that I could Just not get rid of. And one day I get out of the shower I'm like, oh, my god, I don't stink anymore. You know, I know all those toxins that I was, just my body was getting rid of. And then, shortly after boom, parasites show up and I start doing a peristal protocol and yes, right, the proof is in the toilet. When you see stuff that you're like, oh gosh, that doesn't look like a normal bowel movement. But okay, yeah, and I just started feeling. Better mean more my weight, more managed, my hormones more, more in check and balanced. And so mold. How does mold play a role in holding lime in the system?

Dr. Randy : 38:54

Just some really good question, yeah, so we'll be a little bit like get into the into the thick of some some immunology for a second. I'm not an immunologist, but it generally like we have th1 and th2 response right and and from what I've learned, our th1 response is going to address bacteria Viruses. Our th2 response is going to address more of the parasitic side of things. There's a lot of in between Parasites when, when the macrophage hits the parasite, it'll send a signal to our th1 response, inhibiting that.

Dr. Randy : 39:31

So, now it becomes a challenge for our body to address bacteria and viruses. Well, on top of that is where mold sits, where mold will suppress our immune function in general and it bogs that whole system down so that now we don't really amount to immune response to much of anything. Yet our inflammation is is rampant and massive and mold can activate mass cells, which then we start to become reactive to. And mold I'll say we could go back on mold. Mold is like it can come from multiple different things corn wheat, different foods, different fruits, vegetables and what most commonly known is like water damage, right, so you have a leak somewhere and it gets into the drywall and the way that our homes are built today. It is a breeding ground for mold and it doesn't take much water for mold to start to grow, and I mean less than 24 hours and there's already mold spores that are growing. And then those mold spores want to keep Producing so that they then put out what are called mycotoxin. This is what people really get into the body is the mycotoxin which it wants to kill everything in sight so that that mold can keep growing. And in our body there are several. I mean there are so many different types of mycotoxin and essentially they do damage to our liver, our kidneys, our nervous system. They inhibit our ability to make ATP, which is our fuel for energy in the body. They absolutely affect our brain chemistries, our endocrine system, so they really wreak havoc on the body, all systems, all mechanisms and and Some.

Dr. Randy : 41:25

And the challenge with mold is you could have a couple in the same home and one is like deathly ill, I can't get out of bed, and the other is like what's the problem? Fine, there's nothing here. Yeah, and so that that sensitivity can be very different for people. And again, this is where listening and hearing and and not judging that individual, but being open to what they have to share, and then starting to look for clues. And so, when I suspect mold, people come to me and they're like I'm just so Fatigued, yeah, my brain doesn't work. It feels like there's this cloak over my brain that I can't remember things. I walk into a room. I have no idea why I went there. It takes me forever to come up with words, and then, and then the fatigue. I went to the grocery store and I came back and now I'm laid up for the next three days.

Fabiola : 42:20

I can't.

Dr. Randy : 42:21

There are literally people like that, right, you've had had those experiences with patients and it's this is what mycotoxin does. And so, again, you, really you can't kill mycotoxin in the body. You have to bind it and drain it. And in order to do that, you have to have your lymphatic system working and your liver working and and this is where that preparation for helping support those pathways is really important, and there's not a one-size-fits-all approach to this because of the, I think that this, the individuality of how people are, you know they're wiring and what works.

Dr. Randy : 43:00

There are some binders that are great, some I found that, oh, you can't tolerate that at all, like we've got to go super small doses of things and and and so it's just it's very individual, but you I'll touch on this getting the mold out of the body is really important. Getting the mold out of your environment is essential because you will never heal if the mold is in your environment, and I think this is where it gets more tricky with people, because there can be there's a ton of uncertainty and a ton of fear. Right, you call a molten specter, found it, took care of it. I'm still sick.

Dr. Randy : 43:43

Yeah call another mold inspector, right, and, and it's hard to find a reliable one. I think that, personally, I think, yes, we inspect as the best. Yeah, they don't do any remediation work. Right, they come in and find it and give you a plan, but then it's oh, now who's gonna do the work? And so I think all of those factors Create and we need to understand this for our, our patients, and I think patients need to understand this as well it's okay. What is my next step? If you look at, oh my gosh, all the stuff I have to do and potentially, how much money is that gonna cost me? Thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. It depends on the, on the severity of it. But I think that, okay, what is my, my one next step?

Dr. Randy : 44:32

Yeah is there someone I need to call? Okay, can I just make that call? Oh Well, what's gonna happen if I make that call? I just I need to make the call and Then, and then you just again take that one next step but, the take-home point is you won't heal if there's still mold in your environment.

Dr. Randy : 44:52

So, whatever it takes to get out of that environment and currently I'm working with people that they've moved out of their home. They are having it completely redone. It's been I think they've been what six months out of their home. I mean that's like totally uprooted. Yeah right, they've gotten rid of everything and literally everything. They have to get new mattresses, they have to get anything porous They've had to replace. So we're talking clothing. You know, we're think of, think of porous structures, yeah, and it's gonna be a very slow moving process. And yet there's excitement Because, okay, our environment is going to be safe.

Dr. Randy : 45:33

Yeah and I had another patient that that same thing they found molded like we can't live in this environment. They up and moved Right up to their entire life, actually moved out of their state to a different state, to where, a drier climate, something that was better. They tested the home they were gonna move in. You know it's multiple times, just to make make sure. But you want to be safe in your environment, right, if you? If you can't feel safe in your environment, then you're always. There's always gonna be this elevated stress and, yeah, we all, we all heal in stress, right?

Fabiola : 46:08

Yeah.

Dr. Randy : 46:09

You can't digest, you don't heal, you get sick easier. So take home with that is it's gonna be some work to clean up the environment, but it's.

Dr. Randy : 46:22

I mean you have to ask yourself, is it? Is my health worth it? Am I worth it to do this? And I think oftentimes it does come back to that belief of am I worth my family doing all this? And the answer is a hundred percent yes. Yeah, right, I mean you're. I believe that we're all divine children of of God and If we're important to to God, then we're pretty darn valuable. And, yes, we're worth taking the effort in doing it to to allow ourselves to heal, because so much of us, there's so much of us that each of us have to give not have to, but can give to bless and benefit the lives of others. And so, yeah, we're worth healing, because we're not gonna be able to heal and help other people, and who best to do it than someone that's been in that situation, it's come out of it to help somebody else or to help, you know, one, ten, a hundred, a thousand.

Fabiola : 47:21

Yeah, no, that's true, that's very powerful. Thank you so much for sharing that with us. And so what are some of Protocols that you would, you know, recommend? If someone says, well, you know, I think I have Lyme, I Really want to check it out. Where could I start from? What would be your recommendation?

Dr. Randy : 47:42

So I do think I think it's important to test, right, you want to know, do I have Lyme? That still might be false negatives, right? I think steps that I'm now taking with with my own patients is. My first is I want you to get outside, I want you to put your feet on the earth, I want you to breathe, I want you to have good water. Right, because in now they may say, well, I'm really fatigued and tired. That's fine, put your feet on concrete. I think there's such a benefit to being connected to our environment. If we've disconnected from our environment, we need to reconnect, because there is an energy to this earth, twice called mother earth, right, it's loving, it's nurturing its healing, and so those are actually like starting to be. Some of my first protocols is get your feet back on this earth, get that energy into the body because it is healing, and then Drainage, right, we need to work on. Do you want? Do you want, specific protocol? Do you want specific things or do you like in general? I'm curious.

Fabiola : 48:42

Yeah, well, you know, I mean one. Obviously, everybody is gonna be different, right I? Mean yeah, something different, but just like a basic round down or like you know, like you were going like yeah, grounding, yeah, in general, like some of the products I love to use are our products for the lymph.

Dr. Randy : 49:02

So I use a lot of so core products and I feel that they're so beneficial for drainage, so getting outside working manually on the lymph there are some great resources online for that. And then, product wise, I mean our Tudka. Advanced Tudka is fantastic for decongesting the liver, kl support, which is working on your liver and your kidneys. Biotox binder fantastic for binding these mycotoxins and ammonia, and minerals. And minerals are essential because they're like that we have to have minerals. Without minerals and nothing works in our body.

Dr. Randy : 49:41

And so sometimes that's kind of like the foundation, yeah, of what I'll start with. And we're not killing anything, right, we're not. We're not targeting any parasite or lime. We're really helping to support and open up these pathways in the body and then, depending on how someone does with just that basic Aspect, then we can start to add on things and use some heavier things to help induce more drainage. Some stronger binders start to hit on the parasite side with the different para products, para one through four, and you know there's not a right or wrong way necessarily to do that. It depends on the individual.

Fabiola : 50:19

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Randy : 50:20

But I do find that working on in most cases I won't say all, but in most cases I find that it's important to work on mold, yeah, and then parasites, sometimes that that flips on me. Sometimes I've needed to like work on actual the lime first, which it was kind of shocking to me with one patient I was trying to go down like the normal pathway and it just wasn't working and I'm like, fine, we're just gonna hit line and we started using some of the. Again, the cell core is products, is bore, and man turned around, like that headache started to go away, body pain went away and like, okay, yes, we are all individuals and we need to look at this individually. You know not as well here I'm gonna follow these. You know exact steps, right, but in general drainage, then mold, parasites, I Think. I think then I start to hit, you know lime and and then other toxins. But I love the cell core products and I love them because you have this roadmap of health and there's no other.

Dr. Randy : 51:28

I don't, I haven't found other products that, for this population, are using the carbon technology. They are, it's so assimilates with our body and it's readily available. It's healing on so many levels, yeah, and, and it's just masterful how those have been put together. There are many other things that we use, but I find that that is the base, is really valuable and and it helps lift people out of the the Chronicity of inflammation and health that they're in. The last part of this protocol is is love. I Can't, I can't, I can't go through this and talking without that, and we can't do it for our patients, right, we can't take upon ourselves like their stuff, but man for someone to know that they're loved.

Dr. Randy : 52:22

Yeah for someone to know that we really want to see their best and and see, then be able to express their gifts and their talents. For someone to really feel that and know that. You can't quantify what that means to a person yeah, there's no test but you see it in their eyes, their voice. I think that's one of the things that I love the most about what I do Is because I do love the people that I work with and I love people in general. I think that we're inherently good and that we all have gifts and talents, and so I Like to try to bring that out and remind people, even though they're in this chronic place, they're still have so much about you to give, even if they can't get out of their house.

Dr. Randy : 53:09

I remember I had one person once. She's like I just can't do anything and I said well, what do you mean? Well, I can't go help, I can't go volunteer, I can't go see this person. And I said, could you write a letter? And she's like well, yeah, I can write a letter. I said, man, what do you feel when you receive a letter, a handwritten letter, from someone? And she just kind of lit up like, oh my gosh, I love that. So, again, it's meeting people where they are and and you can't quantify that in a protocol, but it just it's so essential and it's so beautiful and you have that connection and you see that begin to help Change their, their state, change their health, how they, how they view themselves. It's really I Love that the most.

Fabiola : 53:57

Yeah, I you know that that is true because they you gain that, you you build that relationship with, with clients, with patients, and then they know that you are with them through the bad and the good and no matter what Healing crisis or whatever might be happening during a protocol of addressing Lyme, co-infections, mold, parasites, chemicals, whatever, you're there with them and and it is a journey for both practitioner and recipient so that they're they're both you make progress with them. You know when my clients have successes and wins I. I grow as a practitioner. I learned from my clients and it's a team effort. Now, if Someone is like, oh my gosh, I am so ready to start working with dr Randy now, how would one go about Finding you, finding your practice? Do you work with people only locally? You were people with people from all over the world, the states. What do you? What do you do?

Dr. Randy : 55:09

That's a great question. Yeah, we work with people literally all over the world. We do a lot of things virtually. I say 90, 95% of our practice is virtual. So you can find us at totalbodywellnesscliniccom Don't forget the clinic, it's totalbodywellnesscliniccom. We're on Instagram. Podcast is restore the real and, yeah, that's the best way to find us is those two places. Everybody one is clinic, calm and and restore the real on Instagram or podcast places. And we we have a wonderful staff. I love our staff and they're pretty phenomenal.

Fabiola : 55:51

So that's that we work with are awesome, so that's the best place to find us perfect, yeah, so we'll make sure to add all the contact information for both your clinic, your social media accounts, as well as your, your, your podcast, so that we can continue to empower people and help people from all over the world get better and, you know, overcome this chronic illnesses that they might be experiencing either newly or they've been experiencing for a very long time.

Dr. Randy : 56:21

Thanks so much. This has been awesome. I love the conversation. Love talking with you Is really appreciate the opportunity.

Fabiola : 56:28

Thank you, dr Randy, for taking time to speak in and educating us about Important subjects. I really appreciate your time. You're welcome. All right, see ya, bye. Bye.